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Title: SSPX does not deny claims that they bribed a Progressivist archbishop for favors
Post by: CestMoiJeanneMarie on February 26, 2019, 09:20:20 AM
https://traditioninaction.org/bev/229bev02_25_2019.htm



Bird’s Eye View of the News
Atila Sinke Guimarães
THE ‘GOOD’ ARCHBISHOP TRAVEZ – After writing an article on the Sadness of the Statute Our Lady of Good Success (https://traditioninaction.org/OLGS/A022-Quito-ASG.htm), describing her visage as I encountered it in Quito, I was furiously attacked by two SSPX representatives (https://traditioninaction.org/Questions/B999_M116_Sad.html). One is the anonymous editor of Vox Catholica, who I suspect is a priest, and the other is Fr. B. Haenny. I gave a brief answer (https://traditioninaction.org/Questions/B999_M116_Sad.html#attack) to the latter, postponing my reply. It will start now. 

The “courageous” anonymous Vox Catholica editor attacked me indirectly in a brutal and disgusting physical threat against Miss Salwa Bachar, who is in charge of the TIA social media and had recommended my article to the readers of that media outlet. Both attacks revealed a total lack of self-control, which made me wonder if that arrogant intemperance is something common among SSPX priests. 

I dispense myself from refuting each of those accusations, because a very competent reader, who I do not have the pleasure to know personally, spontaneously defended Miss Bachar and me, putting their false indictments to rest. His answers can be read here (https://traditioninaction.org/Questions/B999_M117_Quito.html#def). 

In this article I will expose some background data that may help my reader to understand better what is behind those accusations, the SSPX presence in Quito and more particularly in the Convent of the Immaculate Conception of the contemplative nuns. 

Both attacks against me have a suspicious twist. I wrote that it was common talk in Quito that the SSPX had paid the debt incurred by Arch. Fausto Travez during Francis' visit in 2015. My aggressors instead of simply saying: “No, SSPX did not pass any money to Travez,” tried to divert the attention of their followers by pretending that to accuse Travez of receiving money would be absurd. That Prelate would be so good and so far above any suspicion that I would be committing a mortal sin by even suggesting that the Quito common talk could be true. 

It is surprising that I have to prove to traditionalists that a progressivist Prelate can not be a saint… But since it is necessary, let me do so. 

Travez, pedophilia & ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity 

When I mentioned that two girls had been sɛҳuąƖly abused by a priest on February 3, I was mistaken. The abuse that triggered the scandal took place on February 2, the same day of the feast of Our Lady of Good Success. This lends more gravity to the fact that the Franciscan priest who committed the abuse was one of the two who say Masses for the nuns. However, there is more. 


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That priest was Fr. Nestor Genaro Bustos, know in Quito only as Fray Bustos. He is a trusted friend of Arch. Travez and is constantly at his Palace, a well-informed university professor told me. Confirming this is the fact that Fr. Bustos was one of the few persons chosen by Travez to offer public Masses for the Feast day of Our Lady of Good Success at the Church of the Immaculate Conception. 

I was actually present at the church when a man very similar to the one who appears in the photos at right started a Mass at 9:30 a.m. I left the church and returned at 11:30 a.m. and he was still at the altar saying a New Mass with his stentorian voice. I am not sure if he said just one Mass or two. 

The other New Mass was said by a Bishop, who I believe, by comparing his photo with the Prelate I saw there, is the Auxiliary Bishop Rene Coba. 

Fr. Bustos left that Mass and went to his parish in Guápulo where he abused a 14-year-old girl by touching her intimate parts and asking her to kiss him; before he tried to lure her with some candy. The parents of the girl were informed and learned that their other daughter, age 10, had also been abused by Bustos. 

The news spread and the furious parents and a group of neighbors gathered to lynch the priest. He took refuge in the church but was caught by that group who beat him soundly. Good job! The police came after 20 minutes to arrest (and save) the criminal. The man is in jail and a 30-day investigation is in motion. (El Telegrafo, February 6, 2019, in Spanish (https://traditioninaction.org/bev/Web_Sources/bev229_Bus-1-Sp.png), in English (https://traditioninaction.org/bev/Web_Sources/bev229_Bus-1-Eng.png)) 

The Franciscan Province condemned the abuse committed by Frey Bustos and promised to collaborate with the civil authorities. The “good” Archbishop Travez, who is also a Franciscan, kept silent. 

The dramatic blow of this scandal on the same day of Our Lady’s Feast of the Purification, perpetrated by the same priest that said her Mass at the Convent of the Immaculate Conception, seems symbolic to show us how rotten the whole situation of the clergy in Quito is.


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A highly placed diplomat spontaneously told me that it is known everywhere in Quito that the Franciscan Monastery is infected with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs. The “good” Travez, however, enlisted those same Franciscans to replace the Ecuadorian lay Catholics who for decades had been helping to transport the Statue of Our Lady from the Convent's upper choir to the church twice a year. 

Curiously, in one of the sermons at the solemn Mass that the SSPX said in the Conceptionist Church on that same day, the English-speaking priest did not spare eulogies to both the “good” Arch. Travez and those Franciscan Friars… 

There have been other cases of pedophilia in Ecuador, but it is not rare for the judicial suits to be dismissed by the civil authorities. Very well-informed sources told me that there is an agreement between the Catholic Hierarchy and the government: the recent communist governments – of Rafael Correa and, now, of Lenin Moreno – allegedly have a dossier with a large number of clerical scandals of pedophilia and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity ready to be released. But, according to these sources, they made a deal with the Catholic Hierarchy to hold it back so long as the Bishops and clergy do not attack the communist agenda of the government. And, in fact, the Hierarchy is not attacking it. 

This would be the reason why there are relatively few cases of clerical pedophilia and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity reported and why the few that are disclosed are often dismissed. 

Some furious priests of the SSPX could object: “You did not present direct evidence against the ‘good’ Arch. Travez.” 

I list what I presented:
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With these data in mind, I believe that it is absolutely licit and even normal in political calculations – applying the same Socratic method (1) – to speculate that SSPX helped the progressivist archbishop to pay his debts in order to have access to the Convent of the Immaculate Conception. Nothing seems more probable, given that SSPX had no noticeable presence in Quito and its main characteristic – to say the Traditional Latin Mass – had been forbidden in the Quito Archdiocese for a long time. 

As we see, the strong suspicions about Archbishop Travez’ morality do not provide any guarantee of virtuous behavior. On the contrary, they induce any impartial observer to raise the possibility I raised. 

Unfortunately, I am running out of space. I still need to address other points regarding the presence of SSPX in Quito. One of them is the agent it infiltrated into the Convent in order to poison the nuns and expel those good Catholics who used to provide assistance for the Feast day ceremonies. I plan to address this matter shortly. 

To be continued 


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  • The art of discovering the truth by means of raising hypotheses, a respected method attributed to Socrates.

Title: Re: SSPX does not deny claims that they bribed a Progressivist archbishop for favors
Post by: CestMoiJeanneMarie on February 26, 2019, 09:51:03 AM
This was a continuation of their previous article: https://traditioninaction.org/Questions/B999_M116_Sad.html

Two Proofs of SSPX’s ‘Temperance’



Vox Catholica’s Attack



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Re: The Sadness of Our Lady in Quito 2019 (https://traditioninaction.org/OLGS/A022-Quito-ASG.htm) 

Note from the Editor: Miss Salwa Bachar is in charge of TIA social media. What follows is a report I asked her to write after an irrational attack she suffered from the editor of the blog Vox Catholica, who I am not sure is a priest or not. After her reply, he found it more prudent to not answer her and made his comment and her reply invisible. A.S.G. 

On Saturday, Feb. 9, TIA’s staff writer Salwa Bachar posted this comment on the channel Vox Catholica’s YouTube Video. It reads: 

“I believe your viewers will benefit from reading this article  (https://traditioninaction.org/OLGS/A022-Quito-ASG.htm)that gives more details about what happened in Quito last week: 

Vox Catholica’s attack 

Not even 10 minutes later, Vox Catholica’s editor replied to Salwa’s comment. His reply not only included false representations of Mr. Atila’s article (straw man fallacies) and accusations that Salwa was spreading “dirty propaganda from the non-Catholic sect called TFP,” but it was also rife with intimidations and threats of physical violence. The reply was the following: 

This article is Slanderous, and frankly whoever wrote it is in grave sin. The author falsely accuses the Archbishop of simony (accepting bribes for religious privileges etc.), it totally mischaracterizes the TFP (Tradition Family Property, who has been illegally forcing themselves on the sisters of the convent), and it states that the SSPX moved the statue from the upper choir and that is also a DIRTY LIE. I have video footage of the Franciscan Friars 1) Leading the procession, 2) Carrying our lady down from the upper choir and placing her on the altar, 3) I have video footage of the Archbishop attending the dawn procession on Feb. 2, which is the first time EVER that he has participated in this devotion 4) and the idea that the Society has enough money to go around the world bribing bishops for privileges is a sick lie. How dare you accuse a good bishop of sin! How dare you spread this dirty propaganda from the NON-CATHOLIC SECT known as the TFP

“+Salwa Bachar, if I wasn't posting this response from my channel's account, I'd be using much stronger language, and if we ever met in real life, believe me, I'd take you behind the convent and share a couple of fist fulls of the truth with you. You need to seriously re-consider where you get your news from, and you need to do some fact checking before you go around accusing Bishops of grave sin. I'll be praying for you.” [emphasis added

Salwa’s reply 

After some hours, Salwa Bachar posted this comment in response to Vox Catholica’s threats: 

“If you are so courageous, why don’t you present your grievances to the author of that article? I believe he stands behind what he affirmed. I am a lady who just advised your viewers to see the other side of the picture. 

“The unruly fury you showed against me for just suggesting another point of view shows that you believe you are infallible and you punish violently with words and physical threats those who are not on your side. This behavior is what scholars say characterizes the belonging to a sect. The exposition of the truth is normally calm and rational, not what you did, resorting to baseless personal attacks and labels. 

“The violence of your reaction also confirms suspicion that you are directly linked with SSPX, contrary to your website’s claim that you are 'not affiliated to any Catholic order or diocese.'” 

To date, Vox Catholica has not responded. 

For a snapshot of the Vox Catholica page, click here (https://traditioninaction.org/Questions/Images/B_999_M116_Screen.pdf) 

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Fr. B. Haenny’s Attack


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Dear Sir, 

I have read your article on the “Sadness of Our Lady in Quito – 2019. (https://traditioninaction.org/OLGS/A022-Quito-ASG.htm)” Having been there myself for the lowering, I can tell you that the SSPX priests did NOT bring down the statue but it was the Franciscans. Perhaps some of the video and pictures I took of the event will be helpful to expose your lie. 

Accusing the archbishop of simony and accepting a large donation of money based on the “talk of the town” is a calumny and a grave sin. If you have the proof, offer the evidence. If you don’t, retract your lie immediately. What kind of a Catholic man throws baseless and unproven accusations against a prelate of the Church? You talk of Catholic “knighthood” and “honor.” Such is not in the example of Catholic honor and chivalry that your mentor, Dr. Plinio taught you, I am sure, and that TFP so self-righteously claims to uphold. It is the tactic of Freemasons and all those who justify the means by the end. It is the tactic of all those in history who disregard morality, all those who serve as agents of the prince of lies. I can think of no other reason to publish such lies except that getting control of a convent of sisters and control of Our Lady is more important for you or for whoever you work for than honoring Our Lady’s requests and obedience to the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. 

If you have any decency and honor you will retract this article and publish a full apology immediately and may God have mercy on you if you do not. 

Fr. B. Haenny 


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The Editor responds: 

Rev. Fr. Haenny, 

It will be my great pleasure to answer your rabid diatribe when I find some spare time. Unfortunately for me, I have to postpone this pleasure for about 20 days since I am busy with two other ongoing projects. 

To put some weeks between your message and my answer can give you time to cool your fury and check with your superiors to be sure that your points reflect well their position. It also will allow other like-minded protesters to come forth, so that I may answer all the objections together. 

I like many aspects of bullfights and I am glad you assumed the role of the bull charging at the red cape in the ring. 

    Cordially, 

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Title: Re: SSPX does not deny claims that they bribed a Progressivist archbishop for favors
Post by: CestMoiJeanneMarie on February 26, 2019, 09:51:49 AM
Thoughts?
Title: Re: SSPX does not deny claims that they bribed a Progressivist archbishop for favors
Post by: CestMoiJeanneMarie on February 26, 2019, 11:54:35 AM
I haven’t heard of any statements from the SSPX about this. Has anyone heard of any response from them?
Title: Re: SSPX does not deny claims that they bribed a Progressivist archbishop for favors
Post by: Mr G on February 26, 2019, 12:17:29 PM
I haven’t heard of any statements from the SSPX about this. Has anyone heard of any response from them?
Neither have I. Maybe you should call the District House to ask for clarification. 
Title: Re: SSPX does not deny claims that they bribed a Progressivist archbishop for favors
Post by: Incredulous on February 26, 2019, 12:23:40 PM
Neither have I. Maybe you should call the District House to ask for clarification.


Father Wegner's press secretary responds to questions on the "Quito affair"

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Title: Re: SSPX does not deny claims that they bribed a Progressivist archbishop for favors
Post by: CestMoiJeanneMarie on February 26, 2019, 12:35:41 PM

Father Wegner's press secretary responds to questions on the "Quito affair"

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