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SSPX doctrinal declaration
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 05:57:18 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Wessex
For some time now we have been splitting the SSPX into two camps. We might say the younger generation is now instructing the older generation, or, better, the liberal wing (always in today's leadership positions!) is instructing the conservative wing. Although Rome blocked a well-planned liberal initiative, the Society is still stuck with a liberal management hawking its liberal manifesto, a manifesto that was actually improved from something more horrible at the chapter meeting.

How do district superiors who one by one came out and supported the proposed deal respond a year later with one leg firmly planted inside the conciliar world? If they are true to themselves, they must continue to use the manual that was prepared by Menzingen for a period of transition. The past tells us that those that have embarked on such a process are more likely to push on rather than backtrack. In this weak state, the leadership of the Society cannot but succuмb to a clever approach from Rome at some future date. But if this happens, with Fr. Cekada's practical eye, the devil will be in the detail of an agreement and unhappy priests could leave along with their congregations. Maybe Rome has anticipated this and does not want the trouble and adverse publicity. Traditionalists are a difficult lot, thankfully!    



Wessex said:

"...they must continue to use the manual that was prepared by Menzingen for a period of transition."

 :surprised:

There is a manual?

Is it public?

Has it been posted on the internet anywhere?



I was speculating on the existence of one; at the bare minimum the district superiors must have been briefed beforehand when an agreement was on the cards and told to prepare their parishes for the changes anticipated.

SSPX doctrinal declaration
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 06:19:09 PM »
Quote from: Wessex
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Wessex
For some time now we have been splitting the SSPX into two camps. We might say the younger generation is now instructing the older generation, or, better, the liberal wing (always in today's leadership positions!) is instructing the conservative wing. Although Rome blocked a well-planned liberal initiative, the Society is still stuck with a liberal management hawking its liberal manifesto, a manifesto that was actually improved from something more horrible at the chapter meeting.

How do district superiors who one by one came out and supported the proposed deal respond a year later with one leg firmly planted inside the conciliar world? If they are true to themselves, they must continue to use the manual that was prepared by Menzingen for a period of transition. The past tells us that those that have embarked on such a process are more likely to push on rather than backtrack. In this weak state, the leadership of the Society cannot but succuмb to a clever approach from Rome at some future date. But if this happens, with Fr. Cekada's practical eye, the devil will be in the detail of an agreement and unhappy priests could leave along with their congregations. Maybe Rome has anticipated this and does not want the trouble and adverse publicity. Traditionalists are a difficult lot, thankfully!    



Wessex said:

"...they must continue to use the manual that was prepared by Menzingen for a period of transition."

 :surprised:

There is a manual?

Is it public?

Has it been posted on the internet anywhere?



I was speculating on the existence of one; at the bare minimum the district superiors must have been briefed beforehand when an agreement was on the cards and told to prepare their parishes for the changes anticipated.


Ahh....yes....

Blushing...

Yes, there was a speech by a visiting priest at my parish last year who made a speech about how we musn't talk too much about Jews and Freemasons when all the new people start attending after the deal.


SSPX doctrinal declaration
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 07:07:36 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Yes, there was a speech by a visiting priest at my parish last year who made a speech about how we musn't talk too much about Jews and Freemasons when all the new people start attending after the deal.


How awful. What a faithless ... .

SSPX doctrinal declaration
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 09:05:23 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Wessex
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Wessex
For some time now we have been splitting the SSPX into two camps. We might say the younger generation is now instructing the older generation, or, better, the liberal wing (always in today's leadership positions!) is instructing the conservative wing. Although Rome blocked a well-planned liberal initiative, the Society is still stuck with a liberal management hawking its liberal manifesto, a manifesto that was actually improved from something more horrible at the chapter meeting.

How do district superiors who one by one came out and supported the proposed deal respond a year later with one leg firmly planted inside the conciliar world? If they are true to themselves, they must continue to use the manual that was prepared by Menzingen for a period of transition. The past tells us that those that have embarked on such a process are more likely to push on rather than backtrack. In this weak state, the leadership of the Society cannot but succuмb to a clever approach from Rome at some future date. But if this happens, with Fr. Cekada's practical eye, the devil will be in the detail of an agreement and unhappy priests could leave along with their congregations. Maybe Rome has anticipated this and does not want the trouble and adverse publicity. Traditionalists are a difficult lot, thankfully!    



Wessex said:

"...they must continue to use the manual that was prepared by Menzingen for a period of transition."

 :surprised:

There is a manual?

Is it public?

Has it been posted on the internet anywhere?



I was speculating on the existence of one; at the bare minimum the district superiors must have been briefed beforehand when an agreement was on the cards and told to prepare their parishes for the changes anticipated.


Ahh....yes....

Blushing...

Yes, there was a speech by a visiting priest at my parish last year who made a speech about how we musn't talk too much about Jews and Freemasons when all the new people start attending after the deal.



Yes, I remember the mention at my chapel, instructing that we should be understanding when the great influx of NO faithful would occur at our chapel...they were counting their chickens before they hatched!  Never a wise thing to do...

SSPX doctrinal declaration
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2013, 09:45:22 AM »
It is almost as though we are able to write the script for the new Society with or without a deal. Bereft of its former political dimension and anxious to embrace the conciliar world where it can, parishes will become more outlets for the performance of old-style liturgies without clear doctrinal underpinnings: the maintenance of the appearance of tradition.