Author Topic: SSPX District notice concerning Ignis Ardens (Read 37777 times)

Ignis Ardens · « **Reply #75 on:** June 15, 2011, 03:40:24 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

The General Discussion section of the Ignis Ardens forum has been closed so the question Quo Vadis, Ignis Ardens? sill applies. It seems the forum is closing down. Cath Info is to be commended for its Independence.

http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=7413
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This section is temporarily closed...

For how much longer are you going to post these unfounded comments of yours in relation to Ignis Ardens, John?

You quote a post from our forum which clearly states that "This section is temporarily closed" and post "It seems the forum is closing down."

Quo Vadis, John Grace?

clare · « **Reply #76 on:** June 15, 2011, 03:51:48 PM »

In case anyone is interested, I temporarily closed that section following complaints from other members about the tone of postings. Rather than ban the culprits, I thought I'd just shut down the section they post in most of the time, in the hope that they might find something else to talk about.

As the posting says, I closed the section "so members can change the record."

Sometimes the negativity gets rather tiresome, and I do get fed up with it.

Is that so hard to understand?

John Grace · « **Reply #77 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:15:15 PM »

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Quote from: John Grace
The General Discussion section of the Ignis Ardens forum has been closed so the question Quo Vadis, Ignis Ardens? sill applies. It seems the forum is closing down. Cath Info is to be commended for its Independence.

http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=7413
Quote
This section is temporarily closed...

For how much longer are you going to post these unfounded comments of yours in relation to Ignis Ardens, John?

You quote a post from our forum which clearly states that "This section is temporarily closed" and post "It seems the forum is closing down."

Quo Vadis, John Grace?

Which "unfounded" comment? Stating it seems the forum is closing is very different to stating your forum is closing. I never said Ignis Ardens is closing.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #78 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:28:13 PM »

Quote from: clare

In case anyone is interested, I temporarily closed that section following complaints from other members about the tone of postings. Rather than ban the culprits, I thought I'd just shut down the section they post in most of the time, in the hope that they might find something else to talk about.

To be frank Clare, I don't think it's the tone as much as the arguments.

Bernadette, Wessex, Hollingsworth and myself have been treated belligerently. If we responded in kind or went over the line it's because of the unreasoning personalized attacks on our positions.

John Grace · « **Reply #79 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:41:51 PM »

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Quote from: clare
In case anyone is interested, I temporarily closed that section following complaints from other members about the tone of postings. Rather than ban the culprits, I thought I'd just shut down the section they post in most of the time, in the hope that they might find something else to talk about.

To be frank Clare, I don't think it's the tone as much as the arguments.

Bernadette, Wessex, Hollingsworth and myself have been treated belligerently. If we responded in kind or went over the line it's because of the unreasoning personalized attacks on our positions.

I am in agreement with Telesphorus in this matter. There have been disagreements on this forum (Cath Info) but I have never seen the moderating staff remove material that can be substantiated and is factual. I refer to the Complete Krahgate file.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #80 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:43:11 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

To be frank Clare, I don't think it's the tone as much as the arguments.

Bernadette, Wessex, Hollingsworth and myself have been treated belligerently. If we responded in kind or went over the line it's because of the unreasoning personalized attacks on our positions.

To be frank, Tele, you repeatedly went ape on me in another thread, despite the fact that I was neither attacking you nor egging you on. YOU were the belligerent one, amigo... Quo vadis et quare?

You repeatedly claimed I was lying, yet I never lied about anything, little or great.

Nemmersdorf · « **Reply #81 on:** June 16, 2011, 02:40:53 AM »

Quote from: clare

In case anyone is interested, I temporarily closed that section following complaints from other members about the tone of postings. Rather than ban the culprits, I thought I'd just shut down the section they post in most of the time, in the hope that they might find something else to talk about.

As the posting says, I closed the section "so members can change the record."

Sometimes the negativity gets rather tiresome, and I do get fed up with it.

Is that so hard to understand?

It seems to me that the General Discussion section was closed after several members had merely stated that the SERMONS of Archbishop Lefebvre were censored (see thread Litany of JPII : http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=7379&st=100&#last).

These members were questioning the censorship. Recently, another thread concerning the SERMONS was also removed.

IF the SERMONS “were forbidden to be published... by a particular publisher”, I wonder why they have not been published by the very SSPX Angelus Press.

clare · « **Reply #82 on:** June 16, 2011, 05:08:25 AM »

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It seems to me that the General Discussion section was closed after several members had merely stated that the SERMONS of Archbishop Lefebvre were censored (see thread Litany of JPII : http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=7379&st=100&#last).

These members were questioning the censorship. Recently, another thread concerning the SERMONS was also removed.

IF the SERMONS “were forbidden to be published... by a particular publisher”, I wonder why they have not been published by the very SSPX Angelus Press.

It seems to me that some people have a cross between an over-active imagination and no imagination at all.

Wessex · « **Reply #83 on:** June 16, 2011, 06:39:39 AM »

I look at this business in terms of changing trends rather than instances and it would seem there has been a conscious or unconscious attempt by some to adjust to the prevailing social climate and let go of that ideal Catholic world. It is unfortunate that ABL has now to be viewed as SSPX property with all its unsavoury legal and material aspects. In what way the archbishop will be repackaged to reflect a more liberal Society will be revealed in due course to those who bother to notice. The direction of unofficial websites will depend on how critical or compliant they are.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #84 on:** June 16, 2011, 06:54:23 AM »

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To be frank Clare, I don't think it's the tone as much as the arguments.

Bernadette, Wessex, Hollingsworth and myself have been treated belligerently. If we responded in kind or went over the line it's because of the unreasoning personalized attacks on our positions.

To be frank, Tele, you repeatedly went ape on me in another thread, despite the fact that I was neither attacking you nor egging you on. YOU were the belligerent one, amigo... Quo vadis et quare?

You repeatedly claimed I was lying, yet I never lied about anything, little or great.

What you don't seem to get Eamon, is that you shouldn't join up with or show sympathy for the bad guys (girl) .

Telesphorus · « **Reply #85 on:** June 16, 2011, 06:59:12 AM »

Quote from: clare

between an over-active imagination and no imagination at all.

We imagined that the St. Remy Press was taken to court and prevented from publishing the sermons of the Archbishop?

Protection of the Archbishop Lefebvre "brand" from his actual writings?

clare · « **Reply #86 on:** June 16, 2011, 07:01:05 AM »

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between an over-active imagination and no imagination at all.

We imagined that the St. Remy Press was taken to court and prevented from publishing the sermons of the Archbishop?

Protection of the Archbishop Lefebvre "brand" from his actual writings?

I'm talking about what Nemmersdorf imagines to be my reasons for temporarily closing that section.

clare · « **Reply #87 on:** June 16, 2011, 07:04:19 AM »

I did have a policy of "doing a Menzingen" and not responding to any more comments on this thread! I'll try to adhere to it again now.

John Grace · « **Reply #88 on:** June 19, 2011, 02:57:15 PM »

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Quote from: Nemmersdorf
It seems to me that the General Discussion section was closed after several members had merely stated that the SERMONS of Archbishop Lefebvre were censored (see thread Litany of JPII : http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=7379&st=100&#last).

These members were questioning the censorship. Recently, another thread concerning the SERMONS was also removed.

IF the SERMONS “were forbidden to be published... by a particular publisher”, I wonder why they have not been published by the very SSPX Angelus Press.

It seems to me that some people have a cross between an over-active imagination and no imagination at all.

You get a thumbs down for this comment, Clare. Nemmersdorf made a particular good and valid point.

clare · « **Reply #89 on:** June 20, 2011, 11:44:17 AM »

Quote from: John Grace

Quote from: clare
Quote from: Nemmersdorf
It seems to me that the General Discussion section was closed after several members had merely stated that the SERMONS of Archbishop Lefebvre were censored (see thread Litany of JPII : http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=7379&st=100&#last).

These members were questioning the censorship. Recently, another thread concerning the SERMONS was also removed.

IF the SERMONS “were forbidden to be published... by a particular publisher”, I wonder why they have not been published by the very SSPX Angelus Press.

It seems to me that some people have a cross between an over-active imagination and no imagination at all.

You get a thumbs down for this comment, Clare. Nemmersdorf made a particular good and valid point.

It was beside the point, as it had nothing whatsoever to do with my closing General temporarily.

I did not close it because members referred to the "censored sermons".

Hence the over-active imagination.

The lack of imagination is folks' failure to understand why I might get exasperated occasionally.

There goes my resolution again!