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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2011, 03:22:19 AM »
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  • Thank you Elizabeth.  :dancing:

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    « Reply #31 on: May 02, 2011, 03:32:33 AM »
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    Thank you Elizabeth.  :dancing:


    Clare, I ask you the question again.

    It's one thing to be relieved to have the matter done with on your board, it's quite another to be threatened with lawsuits.

    Do you really think it's a good thing for the society to trash Ignis Ardens and threaten lawsuits?

    If you do, I think you're not thinking clearly at all.

    None of us made this Krah character hobknob with Zionists or publicly state admiration for dirty films.  None of use made Bishop Fellay hire this man with obvious conflict of interests to have a prominent place administering the SSPX.  Those of us who have brought up this information have every right to be concerned about how the SSPX is run and the interests of those who run it.  Bishop Fellay and Mr. Krah are responsible for this situation - and they would stifle people with threats of litigation!  What arrogant folly.



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    « Reply #32 on: May 02, 2011, 03:41:57 AM »
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  • And yes - for someone who speaks in a court of on behalf of the SSPX when Bishop Williamson is under legal threat because of the power of Zionism to himself attend fundraisers for Zionist causes is an OBVIOUS conflict of interests.

    It is VITAL that all the faithful be aware of such a situation, and I would think if there was nothing wrong with it it wouldn't be falsely branded "slander."

    (yes, those who would call such a thing slander are the real slanderers)

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    « Reply #33 on: May 02, 2011, 06:11:37 AM »
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  • You have to remember the following questions have not been answered. A concerned faithful compiled it.

    http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3436141.0
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    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=6755&hl=
    "Dear Friends of the Krahgate Team,

    I am following since the start the Krahgate threads on Ignis. Krah is a name which is known in Austria, but it is not a loved name. I am wanting to write since your ask for information, but I did not have many informations to give you. Now I see that Credo posts something about the Jaidhofer Foundation, and I see now that I can give more informations.

    First, though, I give one piece of news that William of Norwich is not seeing (but thanks Gott William for the news you give!). If you go here and click

    http://www.theresienstiftung.de/ueber-uns/...nsstruktur.html

    you see that Krah is not only with the Dello Sarto and the Foundation but also with the St Therese school at Schonenberg in Germany. Click to make much large the image and look at the box ‘stiftungsvorstand’ which is meaning “the management” for the school. Why do the school need Krah on its comittee? Is nobody else possible to help the sisters and the students but the Zionist agent?

    Credo is saying in its post that he received the informations about founding of the Foundation. It is true. Jaidhofer Foundation is begun on 14 January, 2009: just before founding of the Dello Sarto on 19 January, 2009. The timeing is good, yes? And the informations – two urls – of Credo contact is true. But this informations is not the all. It is important that the informations is made understood in English so everybody who wants Krah away from SSPX knows what the Foundation is really. I do not know all about it but I can say more than the Credo anonimous post.

    First the Credo post is talk about Böerse Express. Go and click here for meaning of the word ‘borse’ in the google translate

    http://translate.google.co.uk/translate_t?...ed=0CBYQrgYwAA#

    noun

    1. exchange
    2. stock exchange
    3. market
    4. stock market
    5. purse
    6. board
    7. change

    This means what? It means that “Böerse Express” is about business, stock markets, investiments and things of like order. It is not to do with charitys and small groups for organise their affaires.
    Second, click here and read from list
    http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl...N%26prmd%3Divns

    Five names from bottom is the name -
    W
    Jaidhofer Privatstiftung St. Josef und Marcellus (321626f) Jaidhof Foundation St. Joseph and Marcellus (321626f)
    1010 Wien, Plankengasse 7

    There is tree things in this which is informations. One is that “Jaidhofer Privatstiftung” is not in Jaidhof where is national HQ of SSPX in Austria, but in Wien (Vienna) – and very nice zone in Vienna! Why is the Foundation not have its adress in Jaidhof which are only less than one hour from Wien? Two, please read the list of other foundations or companies. What are we seeing? Companies like K & F Beteiligungs Gmbh – this Gmbh is meaning “limited liability company”
    (I find in dictionary on line http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/051305.asp)

    which means real business, not small business which cuts hairs of the poodle dogs or sells sweets to the kids. We are also seeing consultancy firms, hotels, child care chain business, companies working in the carbon and steel, property management, engineering and other things. I think that religious foundation of SSPX looks strange in this list. Tree, what means the nummer (321626f)? Is it a register number specific for SSPX foundation? Or does ‘f’ mean kind of business involved in? And what means ‘W’ at beginning of Jaidhofer Privatstiftung – is it what tells the natur of the business? I am not knowing this but maybee others can say what is meaning.

    Now go here and click and see “boerse express” in English – this much important for English people because it tells much I think about heart of Krahgate matter:

    http://www.boerse-express.com/express/express-01102009e.pdf

    Page 1 – “Banks: Capital increases to pay off the State” – news from the Goldman Sachs!

    Page 2 – “Cash Calls and their Profiteers” – more about the Goldman Sachs and NOT hostile!

    Page 2 – “Tailwinds of Nabucco” – story of the oil pipline that wants steal oil from asian countrys and organised by neocons and their wars.

    Every page is about business but only the BIG business not small!

    But for Catholics of SSPX page 6 is key to mystery. Markus Fichtinger told how Austrian finance is really international and he tells “There isn’t an Austrian equivalent to these print newspapers (he talks here about “Financial Times” at London and “Wall St Journal”), but the English version of boerse express closes this gap electronically.”

    The he encourage this digitale finance paper “so that an ever increasing number of international investors receive valuable and in depth informations about Austria’s companies.”

    I ask now this questions: what means it that Jaidhofer Foundation (J.F.) is appearing in finance paper aimed at the international investor for Austria? Is J.F. wanting the international investers? If it is yes, why? If it is no, why is J.F. in boerse express? Is it mistake? If it is not the mistake, is the J.F. wanting sell shares in it and is her shares only for Catholics or for all the persons including the international investers like the Goldman Sachs?

    I am sorry for my not so good English but I am hoping you see that these informations are important and have strong meanings. This Krahgate problem seems to me very dangerful to SSPX of Archbishop Lefebvre inspiration. We must get the answers for the souls salvation"

    A very pertinent comment was added.

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    Here's a link to the German-language Böerse Express, the Austrian version of The Financial Times or The Wall Street Journal, that advertised the launch of the Jaidhofer Foundation.
    http://www.boerse-express.com

    I wonder how Fr. Laisney, who apparently informed us in his purported statement that can be found in The Complete Krahgate File, and that was issued just after Bishop Fellay had been visiting Australia, that "I can testify that the SSPX is NOT involved in financial markets speculation or usury of any kind! On the contrary, we strive to avoid the financial world..." might now respond?

    Congratulations are due to Fr. Laisney, by the way. He was promoted just a few days ago from 'parish priest' in New Zealand to Bursar of the entire Asian District.

    Wanganui Chronicle - 31st January, 2011
    http://www.wanganuichronicle.co.nz/have-yo...abroad/3938720/

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    Father Francois Laisney is moving up in the world.

    The prior [senior priest] at St Anthony's Church in Gonville is leaving on Wednesday, February 2 to take up a senior role with his traditional Catholic order, in Singapore.

    He has been appointed bursar of the St Pius X Society's Asia District, a position second only to the district superior.

    "In a way, it is a promotion," Fr Laisney said.

    Originally from France, Fr Laisney has been prior of St Anthony's Church and principal of St Anthony's School for six years and has very much enjoyed his time in Wanganui.

    "It's a very devout congregation here in Wanganui, a very close-knit community."

    Fr Laisney said he was leaving St Anthony's confident both the church and school were in good hands.

    His roles as prior and principal will be taken over by Fr Andrew Cranshaw, who Fr Laisney praises as being "a very, very good teacher".

    A new priest, Fr Michael Anderson, is joining St Anthony's from the United States.

    Fr Laisney was to be farewelled by a solemn high mass yesterday, followed by a parish picnic."


    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    « Reply #34 on: May 02, 2011, 03:30:11 PM »
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    I am curious how is it considered slander to say that someone who attends Jєωιѕн fundraisers is used by Bishop Fellay to represent the Society in the Williamson case, or slander to reveal that someone who publicly remarks that he is a fan of Madonna, 007, and the skin flick 9 1/2 weeks is on the board of SSPX girls schools.

    These are simply facts.  They are simply the truth, and the truth will set the SSPX free.

    Certainly in a legal sense, there is no possible way this can be called slander or libel.

    These are simply facts, and the any scandal or detraction that occurs because of the revelation of these facts is not a sin because the welfare and mission of the society depends on its leaders being held accountable for their actions.


    Couldnt be more right, Tele!  I found out in a very cruel way that there is NO freedom of speach in the Society.
    Today is the one year anniversery of my "booting " from  their chapel here.
    Mostly because I rolled my eyes in displeasure during the THIRD scathing sermon against sedevacantism.


    Even though the Society as a whole is good, you'll come across priests like that from time to time. I'm sure even the CMRI has priests that have fits if someone disagrees with them. All groups will. Doesn't sound like you did anything wrong really, sounds more like the priest just couldn't let go of the subject.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #35 on: May 05, 2011, 10:25:25 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nemmersdorf
    Re:Posting from Hollingsworth:

    "Clare posts a notice from a British SSPX District newsletter. Then she immediately locks the thread. Very good, Clare! I'll try to re-open it, but am not expecting much success."

    "Fr. Morgan writes in part the following:
    Whilst this file (Krahgate), which apparently originated elsewhere, was recently removed at the initiative of the Ignis Ardens moderator, the damage caused will be much more difficult to repair given the public nature of the internet and the propensity for calumny and detraction to spread.

    In this regard Bishop Fellay does not exclude having recourse to judicial process, and this should serve a warning to those who think they can commit public slander via the internet with impunity.

    Father Paul Morgan. "

    Edited!
    Another lucrative source of income FOR the SSPX: "We shall take you to Court!"

    See the famous comedy, Les Plaideurs, the Litigants, by Jean Racine:

    Monsieur Perrin Dandin….
    Il nous veut tous juger les uns après les autres.
    Il marmotte toujours certaines patenôtres
    Où je ne comprends rien. Il veut, bon gré, mal gré,
    Ne se coucher qu'en robe et qu'en bonnet carré.
    Il fit couper la tête à son coq, de colère,
    Pour l'avoir éveillé plus tard qu'à l'ordinaire ;
    Il disait qu'un plaideur dont l'affaire allait mal
    Avait graissé la patte à ce pauvre animal.

    Mr. Perrin-Dandin… he wants to Judge us all one after the other. He is always muttering some nonsense that I don't understand. He wishes, at any cost, to sleep in his judge’s hat and robe. He had his rooster's head cut off, out of anger, for waking him up later than usual. He said that a litigant whose case (Bp W?) was looking dark had bribed the poor animal.

    NEXT VICTIM? !!! :judge:

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    « Reply #36 on: May 07, 2011, 11:27:21 AM »
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    I can't find this statement on the GB website, can you provide a link?


    The NewsLetter for MAY is in PDF format on the District website http://www.sspx.co.uk/

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    « Reply #37 on: May 18, 2011, 10:49:54 AM »
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  • Its now nearly 6mths since the 'Krahgate' story first broke on AngelQueen forum.


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    « Reply #38 on: May 19, 2011, 11:45:46 AM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
    Its now nearly 6mths since the 'Krahgate' story first broke on AngelQueen forum.



    And it has effectively  been shut down by enforced silence and intimidation.

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    « Reply #39 on: May 21, 2011, 12:05:53 AM »
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  • This sort of bullying was not uncommon before Vatican II which is one reason many welcomed that Council.

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    « Reply #40 on: May 21, 2011, 12:18:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: Francisco
    This sort of bullying was not uncommon before Vatican II which is one reason many welcomed that Council.


    Have you read the 'Krah file'? It certainly has been bully boy tactics of Bishop Fellay and Krah to hint at legal action to a woman with Multiple sclerosis. Disgusting tactics from Menzingen.


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    « Reply #41 on: May 21, 2011, 02:09:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
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    This sort of bullying was not uncommon before Vatican II which is one reason many welcomed that Council.


    Have you read the 'Krah file'? It certainly has been bully boy tactics of Bishop Fellay and Krah to hint at legal action to a woman with Multiple sclerosis. Disgusting tactics from Menzingen.


    You forgot to mention she has children as well.
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    « Reply #42 on: May 22, 2011, 09:43:23 AM »
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  • About 15 years ago I said to an SSPX priest:
    If I said such and such thing about you would you say that it would be calumny?
    Yes, he answered.
    And if you said the very same thing about me would that constitute calumny?
    No, he retorted

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    « Reply #43 on: May 22, 2011, 09:44:23 AM »
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  • Quote from: Francisco
    About 15 years ago I said to an SSPX priest:
    If I said such and such thing about you would you say that it would be calumny?
    Yes, he answered.
    And if you said the very same thing about me would that constitute calumny?
    No, he retorted


    They have a severe arrogance problem.  It's going to cost them everything eventually.

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    « Reply #44 on: May 22, 2011, 09:48:40 AM »
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  •  Telesphorus, the "beauty" is that they can walk out of the Society if they feel they have been wronged. For so many of us layfolk, we have burnt our boats and have absolutely no where to go.