Author Topic: SSPX Deception (Read 4637 times)

apollo · « **on:** August 18, 2016, 02:24:51 PM »

Sheepdog here, bark, bark, bark!

Fr Beck gave a sermon last Sunday, Aug 14 2016, in Saint Marys,
KS.

It was all about the GREAT Saint Marys. It made Saint Marys
sound like a gift from the Blessed Mother and the people in
Saint Marys are so holy and supportive of Fr Beck.

Well, that is OK, except for the fact that there is already a huge
amount of pride here.

What's missing from the sermon is news of the personal prelature
recently accepted by Bishop Fellay, news of visiting Novus Ordo
priests saying Mass and hearing confessions, and news that the
Saint Marys Academy and property will become the property of
Rome (as I understand it).

For some of us who know what is going on behind the scenes,
behind the sweet and nice sermons, the sermon was like smoke
and mirrors. For myself, it was kind of sickening.

I'm sure I will be attacked, but I don't care. I'm really sick of the
deception, lack of information and the nonsense that the SSPX will
convert Rome.

I was afraid to call it deception until I heard what Fr Beck thinks
about the laity.

In a video, Bishop Williamson talks about the Doctrinal Declaration
of April 2012. It was kept secret for one year. Why?

Fr. Beck is quoted as saying:

"The only problem in the Society is INTERNAL, a quarrel between
priests, [the Doctrinal Declaration] is absolutely not the laity's business.
And that's why all of this has been kept secret."

The Faith is NOT the laity's business ???

Here is the video:

At 1:09:20 he mentions what Fr Beck said about
the Doctrinal Declaration of April 2012 which was kept
secret for one year ... "It's not the laity's business".

songbird · « **Reply #1 on:** August 18, 2016, 03:51:02 PM »

But it is "their" business to keep business going with $$$, which is from the laity.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #2 on:** August 18, 2016, 05:17:37 PM »

Never met a priest that was good with managing money. The SSPX is no different. Every chapel they operate was given to them by the laity already operating. Anyone can take something that is complete and run it down to the ground, as they've done..

The SSPX lately received like $120 million dollar donation, and what did they do with it? Built a $120 million dollar seminary they don't need. They can't hold onto money.

mw2016 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 18, 2016, 07:35:52 PM »

Quote from: apollo

Fr. Beck is quoted as saying:

"The only problem in the Society is INTERNAL, a quarrel between
priests, [the Doctrinal Declaration] is absolutely not the laity's business.
And that's why all of this has been kept secret."

The Faith is NOT the laity's business ???

Here is the video:

At 1:09:20 he mentions what Fr Beck said about
the Doctrinal Declaration of April 2012 which was kept
secret for one year ... "It's not the laity's business".

Well, then, since it is none of our business as laity, I am sure Fr. Beck won't mind giving up the roof over his head, the nice warm bed he sleeps in, and the meals cooked for him by the "laity," as we exercise the only "vote" we have - with OUR WALLETS!

Mark 79 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 18, 2016, 09:17:17 PM »

For the record, I tried to delete the post above, only because I decided to be reserved.

Well, "That function is disabled," so there you have it, my unreserved opinion.

bernadette · « **Reply #5 on:** August 18, 2016, 09:51:37 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79

For the record, I tried to delete the post above, only because I decided to be reserved.

Well, "That function is disabled," so there you have it, my unreserved opinion.

Don't regret! Say what you mean and mean what you say...from my limited knowledge but astute observation, Fr.. Beck is that martinet...he comes from a big trad catholic family that holds a secure position in the Sspx as though he is, dare I say... Sspx Royalty?!

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2016, 01:44:52 AM »

Quote from: Mark 79

Fr. Beck is a martinet who is at pains to respect parental rights.

I think they are picked and taught to be the way they are in the seminary. If they don't comform, they are told they have no vocation. Assembly line priest, all the same.

I had an old priest friend 20 years ago, that had been a Triple A shortstop, and was really good with attracting, organizing the men, and boys. He was a real man. They threw him out as the pastor of a Novus Ordo church and he bought a farm and went into the tropical fruit business. Later, when I met him, he was back working in my diocese, in the poor neighborhoods that no priest wanted. He built that up to where it was attractive and they got rid of him there too. He died later of cancer.

Incredulous · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2016, 02:11:52 AM »

Agreed. Very few manly seminarians now. You're right, they are conforming "yes" men.

Wessex · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2016, 03:32:58 AM »

These priests will be sizing up their future roles inside Opus Dei 2.0 and the special status being awarded them because of a divinely directed moment in their lives. You will notice a definite spring in their step as they believe themselves to be the few that saved the Church. Will their feet ever touch the ground again? Only doting congregations will sustain this situation; engaging with NO types will not I am sure have the same effect!

cosmas · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2016, 08:35:31 AM »

Fr. Mc Farland has also told me that" its none of my business what goes on with the Society Priests, Its between Bishop Fellay the Priests and Rome. The laity have nothing to do with whats going on in the Society". So if they want to sellout to an apostasized Rome its their prerogative. The rest of us are just collateral damage. It amazes me all the books the society has written on the subject of apostate rome, how there was not an excommunication,but yet it needs to be lifted even though its not there. How the two main heros of tradition were not even mentioned in the lifting of the supposed excommunication,BISHOP CASTRO DE MAYER AND ARCHBISOP LEFEBRE. Was that a typo or were they purposely left out so as to get this fait accompli headed in the right direction for B. Fellay. Again collateral damage. I remember when the Society had talks with Rome and B. fellay and company said ,"impossible to talk with them they think completely opposite ,because of 50 yrs. of modernist thought. I still can't believe how B. Fellay also said Rome was loaded with covens of masons.I could go on and on ,you get the point. They wrote tons of books defending their position and now acquiesced to peer pressure.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2016, 02:53:28 PM »

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Fr. Mc Farland has also told me that" its none of my business what goes on with the Society Priests, Its between Bishop Fellay the Priests and Rome. The laity have nothing to do with whats going on in the Society". So if they want to sellout to an apostasized Rome its their prerogative. The rest of us are just collateral damage. It amazes me all the books the society has written on the subject of apostate rome, how there was not an excommunication,but yet it needs to be lifted even though its not there. How the two main heros of tradition were not even mentioned in the lifting of the supposed excommunication,BISHOP CASTRO DE MAYER AND ARCHBISOP LEFEBRE. Was that a typo or were they purposely left out so as to get this fait accompli headed in the right direction for B. Fellay. Again collateral damage. I remember when the Society had talks with Rome and B. fellay and company said ,"impossible to talk with them they think completely opposite ,because of 50 yrs. of modernist thought. I still can't believe how B. Fellay also said Rome was loaded with covens of masons.I could go on and on ,you get the point. They wrote tons of books defending their position and now acquiesced to peer pressure.

Bait and switch.

It seems far too many people are happy as long as the paint is red and the music is loud, even if that means they get a Volvo instead of a Porsche.

Marlelar · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2016, 02:56:08 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79

For the record, I tried to delete the post above, only because I decided to be reserved.

Well, "That function is disabled," so there you have it, my unreserved opinion.

Guess it was deleted after all, sorry I missed your unreserved opinion!

Mark 79 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2016, 03:20:49 PM »

Quote from: Marlelar

Quote from: Mark 79
For the record, I tried to delete the post above, only because I decided to be reserved.

Well, "That function is disabled," so there you have it, my unreserved opinion.

Guess it was deleted after all, sorry I missed your unreserved opinion!

Ask me after Mass this Sunday (if we don't assist Mass in Reykjavík or at Fr. Finnegan's) :-)

Incredulous · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2016, 04:36:05 PM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

Bait and switch.

It seems far too many people are happy as long as the paint is red and the music is loud, even if that means they get a Volvo instead of a Porsche.

Go on... get that piece of junk out-a-here!

Incredulous · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2016, 04:40:56 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

These priests will be sizing up their future roles inside Opus Dei 2.0 and the special status being awarded them because of a divinely directed moment in their lives. You will notice a definite spring in their step as they believe themselves to be the few that saved the Church. Will their feet ever touch the ground again? Only doting congregations will sustain this situation; engaging with NO types will not I am sure have the same effect!

Bet the true Traditional Catholic remnant, independents and resistance chapels, will be persecuted by civil and criminal courts, while xSPX chapels will go unscathed.
This will be another sign of their masonic inoculation protecting them