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Offline St Ignatius

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Re: SSPX Deathwish
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2018, 10:37:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 04, 2018, 10:09:02 AM
    Nicely said by someone who has no clue...!!!  Some comments don’t deserve a reply...pearls on swine!
    You love your freedom to practice your religion as you see fit and then condemn those who put their lives on the line...some even sacrificing it...providing you that freedom!
    Idiot!
    Hah!  You providing us our "freedom?" What a joke! Who was protecting the freedom of those 2- 3 million souls in the Middle East who lost their lives?  How many of those that lost their lives, threatend my "freedom?" A big fat ZERO! 

    I think it's time to review the real purpose of the "War on Terror..." should at least call it as it is, War of Terror.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #31 on: July 04, 2018, 10:54:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on July 04, 2018, 10:37:47 AM
    Hah!  You providing us our "freedom?" What a joke! Who was protecting the freedom of those 2- 3 million souls in the Middle East who lost their lives?  How many of those that lost their lives, threatend my "freedom?" A big fat ZERO!

    I think it's time to review the real purpose of the "War on Terror..." should at least call it as it is, War of Terror.
    Ha!  There’s some good Lizard People videos on Youtube for you to believe in too.  I think there’s a few that’ll show where Elvis is living also!  Ha Ha Ha!  Oh stop, you’re making my side hurt!  Thanks for the laugh!  You’re the best!
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #32 on: July 04, 2018, 11:50:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 04, 2018, 10:09:02 AM
    Nicely said by someone who has no clue...!!!  Some comments don’t deserve a reply...pearls on swine!
    You love your freedom to practice your religion as you see fit and then condemn those who put their lives on the line...some even sacrificing it...providing you that freedom!
    Idiot!
    Of course I have a clue. The whole picture in fact. What I have said is born out by facts, hard realities.  It is you who do not see, you are one of the unfortunates who internalized the flag waving narrative that the regime has fed you. The only freedom that I have is that which the regime grants to me and when it is expedient, that will be gone as well, the military does not provide that freedom. To be clear, those who serve in the lower ranks of the military serve believing that they are keeping us safe, but they are merely pawns of the elite
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #33 on: July 04, 2018, 12:09:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: JPaul on July 04, 2018, 11:50:02 AM
    Of course I have a clue. The whole picture in fact. What I have said is born out by facts, hard realities.  It is you who do not see, you are one of the unfortunates who internalized the flag waving narrative that the regime has fed you. The only freedom that I have is that which the regime grants to me and when it is expedient, that will be gone as well, the military does not provide that freedom. To be clear, those who serve in the lower ranks of the military serve believing that they are keeping us safe, but they are merely pawns of the elite
    Ha. Silly Man!  Enjoy your bunker as you stay hunched away waiting for the Three Days of Darkness!
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #34 on: July 04, 2018, 01:03:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 04, 2018, 12:09:02 PM
    Ha. Silly Man!  Enjoy your bunker as you stay hunched away waiting for the Three Days of Darkness!

    Yep... this was almost a reality if you would have accepted this wretch as YOUR new C & C!

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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #35 on: July 04, 2018, 01:10:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 04, 2018, 12:09:02 PM
    Ha. Silly Man!  Enjoy your bunker as you stay hunched away waiting for the Three Days of Darkness!
    :facepalm:
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #36 on: July 04, 2018, 02:28:18 PM »
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     Hey Wessex what IS your experience with military Chaplains?  
     I’ve spent and am spending over 20 years in the military.  Not once, not once, have I met a chaplain as you described above.  Regardless of denomination, they have all been kind compassionate and even COURAGEOUS in the field of battle.  Some even risking their very lives to bring comfort and solice to those suffering both physically and spiritually.  If you feel “from your experience” that they seriously crave the company of young men what have you done to address this issue?  Who did you report this too?  What was your proof?
     Every chaplain I’ve ever met have been true American Heroes who put themselves in harms way, even gunfire and frontline action, to pray with the wounded and ask for God’s grace.


    OK, above is a gentle with 20 years of real world experience in the military, telling it how he experienced it himself, from 1998 to present.


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     Last week I had to take two trains, two hours each way to get to the closest Latin Mass that I could find...and this was in northern ITALY of all places.  How wonderful would it be to have the True Mass right there on base?  
     
     The Military NEEDS to have the Traditional Mass restored to it’s chapels. The chaplaincy makes exceptions for all denominations and all flavors of religion.  Let us pray that they allow this priest to enter the Chaplains Corps without compromising the Traditional Catholic faith.  Our men and woman in uniform DESPERATELY need it!


    Here is another posting, sounds good also, except at the end he adds a new politically correct expression “Our men and woman in uniform DESPERATELY need it!” , instead of saying our fighting men or men in uniform, as it was always said throughout history.




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     The U.S. has NEVER “called on woman to defend itself”.  NEVER.  They were never included in any mandatory draft, not even during Vietnam. Thank goodness Patriotic woman have volunteered to serve in the military since the founding of this Nation.
     Lessons learned from Vietnam was that the best military is a volunteer military.  There has not been a draft since.  St. Joan of Arc...PRAY FOR US!


    Here the gentleman begins to defend the practice of having women fight in the military side by side with men and even commanding the troops. The gentleman also makes the analogy that todays fighting women in the military have the same roles as the women had since the Revolutionary War.  He also implicitly gives his opinion that we lost in Vietnam because it was a drafted Army, that had we had better quality soldiers (like today’s volunteer fighting women), we would have won the Vietnam War. He even asks Joan Of Arc to pray for us.

    To me, all the credibility accuмulated by this gentleman in his initial posting, has withered away to nothing. So much so, that I came here to post my observations.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #37 on: July 04, 2018, 02:34:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on July 04, 2018, 02:28:18 PM

    OK, above is a gentle with 20 years of real world experience in the military, telling it how he experienced it himself, from 1998 to present.



    Here is another posting, sounds good also, except at the end he adds a new politically correct expression “Our men and woman in uniform DESPERATELY need it!” , instead of saying our fighting men or men in uniform, as it was always said throughout history.





    Here the gentleman begins to defend the practice of having women fight in the military side by side with men and even commanding the troops. The gentleman also makes the analogy that todays fighting women in the military have the same roles as the women had since the Revolutionary War.  He also implicitly gives his opinion that we lost in Vietnam because it was a drafted Army, that had we had better quality soldiers (like today’s volunteer fighting women), we would have won the Vietnam War.

    To me, all the credibility accuмulated by this gentleman in his initial posting, has withered away to nothing. So, much so that I came here to post my observations.
    St Joan of Arc...Pray for us!
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #38 on: July 04, 2018, 02:35:00 PM »
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    • The men drafted into WWII included doctors, engineers, scientists, professors, carpenters, plumbers, welders, all professionals of the highest caliber, all men who would not normally volunteer to join the military. The forced draft is precisely what made our military personal superior to todays soldiers.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #39 on: July 04, 2018, 02:44:50 PM »
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    "SSPX Deathwish"...



    ...Yeah, their withdrawl from Tulsa was really something.  You can read about it on The Hirsch Files, provided you're registered with me.  

    http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2017/09/wheres-tulsas-fr-stan-rother-sspx-packs.html
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #40 on: July 04, 2018, 03:51:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on July 04, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
    Here the gentleman begins to defend the practice of having women fight in the military side by side with men and even commanding the troops. The gentleman also makes the analogy that todays fighting women in the military have the same roles as the women had since the Revolutionary War.  He also implicitly gives his opinion that we lost in Vietnam because it was a drafted Army, that had we had better quality soldiers (like today’s volunteer fighting women), we would have won the Vietnam War. He even asks Joan Of Arc to pray for us.

    Women do not belong in combat.

    Pope St. Pius X explicitly condemns "women in war or parliament" as a cause of "the desperation and ruin of society":

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    After creating man, God created woman and determined her mission, namely, that of being man’s companion, helpmeet and consolation…It is a mistake, therefore, to maintain that woman’s rights are the same as man’s. Women in war or parliament are outside their proper sphere and their position. There would be the desperation and ruin of society. Woman, created as man’s companion, must so remain under the power of love and affection, but always under his power. How mistaken, therefore, is that misguided feminism which seeks to correct God’s work. It is like a mechanic trying to correct the signs and movements of the universe. Scripture, and especially the three epistles of St. Paul, emphasizes woman’s dependence on man, her love and assistance, but not her slavery to him. Woman’s duties, however, are not confined within the household’s walls. She has a great social mission, a place in every charitable cause; work to perform on behalf of the sick the suffering and the criminal; the protection of women and children. In this great and common action women should unite and should strive to secure the means necessary to exercise the apostolic injunction of social charity.


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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #41 on: July 04, 2018, 03:53:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on July 04, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
    To me, all the credibility accuмulated by this gentleman in his initial posting, has withered away to nothing. So much so, that I came here to post my observations.
    I believe that your "observations" are accurate and justified...
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #42 on: July 04, 2018, 03:58:46 PM »
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    • Not since the history of man has a war been fought that did not include woman.

    Nowhere, not once did I say woman should be in combat roles.  Your assumptions speak for themselves.

    You also greatly depart from the topic of Military Chaplains.  Feel free to start a new thread regarding woman in combat.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #43 on: July 04, 2018, 04:01:57 PM »
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    • I'm not going to knock Ekim for desiring a good traditional Catholic chaplain, but, how could a Catholic priest deal with this type of phenomenon?



    It would seem that this tolerance of perversion in the US military, is irreconcilable with Catholic Church teachings...
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #44 on: July 04, 2018, 04:20:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on July 04, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
    I'm not going to knock Ekim for desiring a good traditional Catholic chaplain, but, how could a Catholic priest deal with this type of phenomenon?



    It would seem that this tolerance of perversion in the US military, is irreconcilable with Catholic Church teachings...

    Sadly, the attitude displayed by this woman in the picture is not far from the typical liberal woman one sees in the streets of America today.
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