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Offline Marlelar

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SSPX deal dead?
« on: July 06, 2017, 10:05:41 PM »
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  • Let's hope so!  I can't imagine them accepting the new conditions.  It may only be a short reprieve but I'm glad for it nonetheless.

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    Offline Miseremini

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 10:22:07 PM »
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  • So what are the new conditions?  When were they put forth?  what is the source?
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 11:20:41 PM »
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  • I suppose this was a different response to the Rosary Crusade than +Fellay expected. I won't be joining the happy chorus of "Ding Dong, the Deal is Dead" quite yet, since I suspect it's only napping.

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 11:50:48 PM »
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  • True, but I'm going to be thankful that for now at least, Fellay has been thwarted.

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 02:55:40 AM »
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  • Deal or no Deal, a lot of damage has been done, and some congregations may never recover, must be almost soul destroying for Priests seeing empty pews,  and for faithful who are trying to hang on in spite of the destruction wrought in once vibrant parishes, scatter the sheep, was the order of the day,  job done!


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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 06:52:51 AM »
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  • Is it prudent to go back to SSPX masses again for people who stopped going due to this possible agreement? Well, reasons for leaving were various, and yet this was one of the greatest concerns, that people were being convinced slowly that it was a Catholic thing to do... 

    What is the opinion of this forum? 

    How does this development affect the Resistance position and fight?

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 09:14:57 AM »
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  • Theoretically if this turns the clock back on the SSPX to 2009 and prior, probably ok, but you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It is a different Society. What about the Conciliar validated marriages? Will the Society ordain new Bishops? Where does this all lead? Somehow I don't think it's over. Bishop Fellay would have to admit defeat and do a 180 for the Society to return to it's former positions. I doubt that will happen.

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 09:29:24 AM »
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  • I agree, it would be very difficult for many people to trust the sspx again, and if they do return to their former parishs, what happens to the Priests who have taken care of them during this  (ongoing) crisis, are they to be dumped on again? No, the sspx is not what it once was, people would be coming back to more of the same, as long as the powers that be are in charge, the ball has just been kicked down the road, that's all.


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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 09:48:38 AM »
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  • SSPX elections are coming up next year (2018)  and Fellay cannot be elected again. 
    Hopefully, a true traditional will be elected.  

    Like I said at the beginning of the current Rosary crusade, Fellay might not get what 
    he wants because one of the things being prayed for is "protection of the society".  


    Offline TKGS

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 11:31:18 AM »
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  • SSPX elections are coming up next year (2018)  and Fellay cannot be elected again.
    Hopefully, a true traditional will be elected.  
    Why do you say he can't be elected again?  
    I asked if there are term limits here on this forum a few months ago and was told that there are no term limits.  What is your source that he cannot be elected again?  

    Offline Marlelar

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 12:19:07 PM »
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  • I also thought there was a two term limit but I cannot find anything on their site or on the web in general that mentions term limits for the SG.

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 12:49:58 PM »
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  • Maybe they have changed those rules too!

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 03:35:11 PM »
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  • I think this leaves the SSPX in a perfect position as far as I'm concerned.  Rome has permitted valid confessions, marriages (albeit with NO involvement), and masses, baptisms, and last rites have always been valid.  The SSPX doesn't need Rome - by anyone's account.

    I'm pretty sure all the SSPX bishops will out live Pope Francis.  Hopefully the pendulum will swing in the direction of tradition after this last dance with Marxism and Liberation theology.

    Offline Binechi

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 04:18:29 PM »
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  • What Is the Future of the Neo-SSPX's Bernie Fellay
     Now that Francis-Bergoglio Is Embroiled in a Sex Orgy?

    From: Peter, the TRADITIO Network's Canadian Correspondent
    As Francis-Bergoglio's Marxist Regime
     Falls under the Weight of a Sex Orgy and Paedophiac Newcardinal
     Which Have Captured the Ire of the World
     The Neo-SSPX's Fellay-fly Is Still Angling to Sell out to the Bergoglian Spider
     Nothing Will Stop Fellay from Wearing Novus Ordo Socks and a Payoff
     In Order to Possess Such a Plum, Fellay Will Have to Agree
     To Control by the Marxist Newpope over All Its Bishops
     But the Way Things Are Going
     Fellay May Well Be Thrown out of Office in the 2018 Elections
     And Bergoglio Become Ex-Newpope No. 2 in the Old Newpopes' Home
    Dear TRADITIO Fathers:
    Looking at the now-revealed conditions for the "regularization" into Newchurch of Bernie Fellay's Neo-SSPX, one might be tempted to believe that it's all over. Not so, of course. Nothing will stop Fellay from gaining his desire to serve to 75 and become Baron Fellay of Castle Menzingen, running his own little empire (really a bailiwick) of Neo-SSPX baronets (priors) and knights very errant (priest-presbyters). He wants the Novus Ordo purple socks complete with "official" recognition and titles, and he wants a substantial payoff to an off-shore account.
    Nor will anything stop the Bergoglian spider from making a deal. The now-fired Newcardinal Mueller's job was to make the conditions impossible in order that Bergoglio, posing as Mr. Mercy, could come to the "rescue." It's like being rescued from a bomb threat by a terrorist. Bergoglio recently alluded to a "new docuмent" which must come "slowly." Neo-SSPX bishop Alfonso de Galarreta also predicted this outcome in January 2017: the Meo-SSPX would fail to qualify for "regularization," but then "Mr. Mercy" would "rescue" it. The "new docuмent" will perhaps declare that Neo-SSPX priest-presbyters are indeed Newchurchers and that their Half New Order Vatican II "1962 Messes" do fulfil the Newchurch purported "Sunday obligation," with the proviso that no good Newchurcher "should" attend them until full "regularization" has been achieved. It will be something like that.
    In order to possess such a plum, Fellay will have to agree to something like a written agreement that all new Neo-SSPX bishops must be approved by Newrome. Fellay needs a deal, or else he now has no future left in a divided Neo-SSPX. He may even be thrown out of office in the 2018 elections. So Newrome now has him by the testicula, just where the Bergoglian spider wants him.
    Once Fellay-fly agrees to this "recognition" in place of "regularization" as a personal prelature, he will be allowed to rule his roost for a few years, eventually accepting the personal-prelature poison. If the Neo-SSPX ever sinks to become a personal prelature of the Newpopes, Fellay will be "allowed" to superintend it under Newvatican "guidance" for two or three more years, until he is viciously replaced by an anti-Catholic, unconsecrated, Newchurch prelate. Play with the bull, and you get the horns! As for Bergoglio's own successor, the Marxist has now already stacked the decks for a succession of Marxist Newpopes.
    Mueller, a semi-Neocon heretic, was kept on board for as long as he was useful to the Bergoglian spider. He is no longer useful; hence he has been axed. In Hell, each superior demon tortures and betrays the demons who are under him. They all hate each other, just as they hate the souls in Hell and in Purgatory and on earth, as well as the just in Heaven. It is the same in the "institutional" Counter-church. Other Newcardinals will be tolerated until they become a hindrance to Bergoglio's policy, which is to turn Newchurch from a liberal Protestant institution into a fully-pagan Marxist Counter-church.

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    Re: SSPX deal dead?
    « Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 06:54:40 PM »
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  • SSPX elections are coming up next year (2018)  and Fellay cannot be elected again.
    Hopefully, a true traditional will be elected.  


    It is more likely that they'll elect someone more liberal like Fr. Schmidberger or Fr. Pfluger. 
    Pray for me, always.