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Offline ancien regime

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« on: March 15, 2013, 08:22:12 AM »
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  • This has appeared in the French language edition of DICI today:

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    DICI presents the opinion of Fr. Christian Bouchacourt, District Superior of South America, on the election of the new Pope.

    Cardinal Bergoglio wants to be a poor man among the poor. He cultivates a militant humility, but may prove humiliating to the Church. His appearance on the balcony of St. Peter's in a simple cassock without the papal rochet and mozetta is a perfect illustration.

    It is a political end ... the idealistic Apostle of poverty from the 70s. He is entirely turned towards the people, the poor, without being a disciple of liberation theology.

    Very aware of the dilapidated state of his clergy, he did nothing to fix things. The seminary in Buenos Aires has never had so few seminarians as it does today. This is a disaster among disasters, as has been the liturgies presided over by the “cardinal of the poor.” With him, we are likely to see the return of the masses of the pontificate of Paul VI, far from the efforts of Benedict XVI to restore the honor of more dignified liturgical ceremonies.

    He is firmly opposed to abortion. Even though he wrote a beautiful letter to the Carmelites of Buenos Aires against the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "marriage" proposition—which sadly has been voted in—he read a pathetic speech during the demonstration in opposition to the project, in which he did not utter the name of our Lord even once, while the evangelical pastor who preceded him managed to excite the crowd with a courageous speech... (see DICI No. 219 of 07/24/10) During an ecuмenical meeting he knelt to receive the blessing of two pastors.

    He is a man of consensus, who has a horror of confrontation. He broke away from Catholics who denounced the blasphemous exhibitions that took place in Buenos Aires.


    I met him 5 or 6 times and he has always received me kindly, trying to give me what I asked, without exerting himself,  in case of impediments...




    Offline s2srea

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    « Reply #1 on: March 15, 2013, 08:24:02 AM »
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  • Thank you for this- do you have a link to where to find it? :)


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    « Reply #2 on: March 15, 2013, 08:29:41 AM »
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  • After translating it myself, I went back and saw that DICI has posted an English translation: DICI article

    Here it is:

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    DICI obtained the opinion of Fr. Christian Bouchacourt, District Superior of South America, on the evening of the Pope’s election.

    Cardinal Bergoglio wishes to be a poor man among the poor. He cultivates a militant humility, but can prove humiliating for the Church. His appearance in the loggia of St. Peter’s in a simple cassock without his rochet and mozzetta is a perfect illustration. He is a fine politician… And idealistic apostle of the poverty of the 70’s, he is completely turned towards the people, the poor, but without being a disciple of the theology of liberation.

    Very conscious of the dilapidated state of his clergy, he did nothing to fix things. Never has the seminary of Buenos Aires had as few seminarians as today. It is a disaster, as have been the liturgies presided over by the “Cardinal of the Poor.” With him, we risk to see once again the masses of Paul VI’s pontificate, a far cry from Benedict XVI’s efforts to restore to their honor the worthy liturgical ceremonies.

    He was firmly opposed to abortion. But while he wrote a beautiful letter to the Carmelites of Buenos Aires against the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ “marriage” bill – which was unfortunately voted through in the end – he had a regrettable discourse read during the protest against this bill, in which the name of Our Lord was not pronounced even once, while the Evangelistic pastor who spoke before him to excite the crowd delivered a more courageous discourse…(see DICI #219, July 24, 2010).

    During an ecuмenical meeting, he knelt to receive the blessing of two pastors.

    He is a man of consensus, who hates confrontations. He kept his distance from the Catholics who denounced the blasphematory expositions that were held in Buenos Aires.

    I have met him 5 or 6 times and he has always received me with benevolence, seeking to grant me what I wished, without going out of his way to overcome obstacles….

    (sources : SSPX – DICI #272, March 15, 2013)

    Offline s2srea

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    « Reply #3 on: March 15, 2013, 08:35:20 AM »
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  • Thank you again.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 09:46:59 AM »
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    I have met him 5 or 6 times and he has always received me with benevolence, seeking to grant me what I wished, without going out of his way to overcome obstacles….


    I've never heard of any USA district superior (or chapel pastor) having any kind of contact with the local bishop other than in response to hostile attacks from the diocese


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    « Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 10:07:50 AM »
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  • A few years back, under our previous pastor, we'd have our annual Rosary Procession down town.  We'd process for a few miles around town. A few blocks from the Cathedral was the Bishops' residence.  We'd stop there and offer a decade of the Rosary for his intentions and conversion to Tradition.  Finally we'd end up at the steps of diocesan Cathedral where we would pray the Rosary with a makeshift Altar set up in front of the main door in honor of Our Lady.  We did this for many years.

    Father would always send the local Bishop a letter letting him know that we would be on his front lawn and at his Cathedral praying the Rosary and invite him to join us.  He never did.  Once or twice we would hypothesize that he was peeking out his window at us but we never knew for sure.  

    I also, know that when he became our new Bishop our Pastor contacted him and let him know that he was remembered in our Masses.  Other than that, I don't know of any contact that our Pastor had with the Local Bishop.  
     

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    « Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 01:29:48 PM »
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  • Even the one time I tried to contact our local bishop, he ignored me.  Several years ago, one of the Catholic high schools here was putting on "Rent" as their high school musical.  It is a play about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and drugs, and the traditionalists felt it was highly inappropriate.  I filed a written letter of concern with the head of the Catholic schools (a liberal religious sister), who ignored me. (She has always been extremely unfriendly to traditionalists.)   I then wrote to the bishop, who similarly  ignored me.  I finally got the Papal Nuncio involved!  I got a package of their advertising material together and overnighted it to him in Washington, along with my formal complaint.  I also made a surreptitous trip to the offending school and planted miraculous medals all over the place.  They supposedly "toned down" the play somewhat, taking out that horrible dirty swear word, but they could not change the topic of the play.  What was most saddening to me is that the bishop let such a play go on at a Catholic school in his diocese. But then the diocese seems to have the motto "gαy is okay"--I have actually heard people say those very words.   If I had children (I am a consecrated person), I most certainly would home school them!

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    « Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 02:01:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: St Gertrude
    Several years ago, one of the Catholic high schools here was putting on "Rent" as their high school musical.


    If you can do so without revealing more about yourself than you think prudent, would you be good enough to tell me what city or locality "here" refers to? I seem to recall hearing a secondhand report about this sordid musical being staged at the biggest neo-Catholic high school in Providence. I cannot say for sure, however, that my recollection is correct. I know that the True Faith has few adherents in Rhode Island, but I don't want to censure the institution or the city's and state's people erroneously.


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    « Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 04:00:15 PM »
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  • This occurred at Judge Memorial High School in the Diocese of Salt Lake City, Utah, under Bishop John Wester's watch.

    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 04:54:37 PM »
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  • Is there any criticism of him going to ѕуηαgσgυє?

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    « Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 11:29:55 PM »
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  • Fellay and company are murdering the English language, just as they are murdering Tradition.


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    « Reply #11 on: March 16, 2013, 12:21:01 AM »
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  • Your of the dioceses!  Grant monies of the federal gov't.!  The dioceses takes the money and does the agenda of the federal gov't.  It is that simple.  There is no bishop of the any dioceses that is doing the work of Christ!  Over 50 years ago, the church, New Order, shook hands with Marxist.  Nothing of the new order is catholic. Nothng!  It was complete take over!  What is left is traditional catholic remnant.  Bishop Moreno took grant money and tried to educate the catholic high school students to take on condoms in the 90's and that was to be taken home to the nest to have the parents accept the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ ideas.  A lawyer sued the dioceses for the grant and won and she read the people involved, and the target was the family to destroy.   That's why the wheels were spinning no matter where you took your information to.  It comes right back to you like a boomerang.

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    « Reply #12 on: March 16, 2013, 12:22:03 AM »
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  • My above post was to be directed to St. Gertrude.