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Offline SeanJohnson

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« on: May 09, 2013, 12:03:56 PM »
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  • If you really want to understand how 31 General Chapter members can contradict in 2012 what they declared in 2006; how almost all SSPX priests can look the other way as Menzingen contradicts the policy of Archbishop Lefebvre towards Rome; how they can fail to see a declaration against the faith in Bishop Fellay's April 15, 2012 doctrinal declaration; how Bishop WIlliamson became the bad guy; how the Resistance is disobedient; etc.

    If you have wondered about these things, the whole answer is right here:



    Crimestop
     
    Crimestop is a Newspeak term taken from the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell. It means to rid oneself of unwanted thoughts, i.e., thoughts that interfere with the ideology of the Party. This way, a person avoids committing thoughtcrime.
     
    In the novel, we hear about crimestop through the eyes of protagonist Winston Smith:
     
    The mind should develop a blind spot whenever a dangerous thought presented itself. The process should be automatic, instinctive. Crimestop, they called it in Newspeak.
     He set to work to exercise himself in crimestop. He presented himself with propositions -- 'the Party says the earth is flat', 'the party says that ice is heavier than water' -- and trained himself in not seeing or not understanding the arguments that contradicted them.
     
    Orwell also describes crimestop from the perspective of Emmanuel Goldstein in the book The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism:
     


    Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc [or Menzingen], and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction.
     Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity.

    (Taken from Wikipedia)
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


    Offline Matto

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    « Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 12:24:36 PM »
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  • I think this could also be used in a healthy way when you are tempted to think sinful thoughts, so the method is not bad.
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    « Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 12:44:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    I think this could also be used in a healthy way when you are tempted to think sinful thoughts, so the method is not bad.


    Yep.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    « Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 01:34:17 PM »
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  •                                                                Winona 2003


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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

    Offline Elsa Zardini

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    « Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 02:19:44 PM »
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  • Incredulous, You are something. I am in a public place (no internet at home) and people are looking at me because I can't stop laughing! Your icon is also so funny!


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    « Reply #5 on: May 09, 2013, 02:43:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: SeanJohnson
    If you really want to understand how 31 General Chapter members can contradict in 2012 what they declared in 2006; how almost all SSPX priests can look the other way as Menzingen contradicts the policy of Archbishop Lefebvre towards Rome; how they can fail to see a declaration against the faith in Bishop Fellay's April 15, 2012 doctrinal declaration; how Bishop WIlliamson became the bad guy; how the Resistance is disobedient; etc.


    It would also be interesting to know how many, and which ones, of these 31 General Chapter Members were at the 2006 General Chapter Meeting in order to see who are the outright contradictors; and the rest, would be the other selected "yes puppets" appointed by Bishop Fellay who were placed in such a voting position -for their lack of knowledge of what true obedience to the faith really means.

    And they wonder why there is a lack of "obedience" given to them?

    The real disobedience started from the top...in the betrayal of ABL.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 09, 2013, 02:49:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: Machabees
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    If you really want to understand how 31 General Chapter members can contradict in 2012 what they declared in 2006; how almost all SSPX priests can look the other way as Menzingen contradicts the policy of Archbishop Lefebvre towards Rome; how they can fail to see a declaration against the faith in Bishop Fellay's April 15, 2012 doctrinal declaration; how Bishop WIlliamson became the bad guy; how the Resistance is disobedient; etc.


    It would also be interesting to know how many, and which ones, of these 31 General Chapter Members were at the 2006 General Chapter Meeting in order to see who are the outright contradictors; and the rest, would be the other selected "yes puppets" appointed by Bishop Fellay who were placed in such a voting position -for their lack of knowledge of what true obedience to the faith really means.

    And they wonder why there is a lack of "obedience" given to them?

    The real disobedience started from the top...in the betrayal of ABL.


    Machabees-

    30 or 31 of the 40 2012 general chapter members were also at the 2006 general chapter
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    « Reply #7 on: May 09, 2013, 02:53:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elsa Zardini
    Incredulous, You are something. I am in a public place (no internet at home) and people are looking at me because I can't stop laughing! Your icon is also so funny!


    Thank you for the feedback Elsa!
    I'm glad to know someone laughed at my Orwell joke and like my "baby-head".
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #8 on: May 09, 2013, 02:55:40 PM »
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    If you really want to understand how 31 General Chapter members can contradict in 2012 what they declared in 2006; how almost all SSPX priests can look the other way as Menzingen contradicts the policy of Archbishop Lefebvre towards Rome; how they can fail to see a declaration against the faith in Bishop Fellay's April 15, 2012 doctrinal declaration; how Bishop WIlliamson became the bad guy; how the Resistance is disobedient; etc.


    It would also be interesting to know how many, and which ones, of these 31 General Chapter Members were at the 2006 General Chapter Meeting in order to see who are the outright contradictors; and the rest, would be the other selected "yes puppets" appointed by Bishop Fellay who were placed in such a voting position -for their lack of knowledge of what true obedience to the faith really means.

    And they wonder why there is a lack of "obedience" given to them?

    The real disobedience started from the top...in the betrayal of ABL.


    Machabees-

    30 or 31 of the 40 2012 general chapter members were also at the 2006 general chapter


    Ouch...

    Out of 40 total -not good.

    Or, out of 39; in their betrayal, they had also ousted the Lion, Bishop Williamson.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 09, 2013, 03:02:10 PM »
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  • This reminds me.

    How can 39-mouses be protected without a Lion to keep them away from the wolf?

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    « Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 03:41:29 PM »
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  • Thumbs up to Sean for his discovery from Orwell's 1984 !




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    « Reply #11 on: May 10, 2013, 07:41:19 PM »
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    Thumbs up to Sean for his discovery from Orwell's 1984 !


    I will like to add also for the good work SeanJohnson is doing in the "Collection of Resistance Writings" section.  This is a very important work.

    I have referred many people to this archive in order for them to understand this SSPX crisis.  In using the N-SSPX's own articles, and those of the SSPX priests of the resistance...it really shows the starkness of the present betrayals.

    Keep up the good work Sean.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 10, 2013, 07:52:49 PM »
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    Thumbs up to Sean for his discovery from Orwell's 1984 !


    I will like to add also for the good work SeanJohnson is doing in the "Collection of Resistance Writings" section.  This is a very important work.

    I have referred many people to this archive in order for them to understand this SSPX crisis.  In using the N-SSPX's own articles, and those of the SSPX priests of the resistance...it really shows the starkness of the present betrayals.

    Keep up the good work Sean.


    Machabees-

    I thank you for your kind words, especially since (back when I was still "Seraphim"), I made some rather harsh responses to you.

    I regret having done so, and these kind words of yours show the largeness of your charity for not having born a grudge.

    FWIW, you impress me.

    Sean
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    « Reply #13 on: May 10, 2013, 09:30:44 PM »
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    Thumbs up to Sean for his discovery from Orwell's 1984 !


    I will like to add also for the good work SeanJohnson is doing in the "Collection of Resistance Writings" section.  This is a very important work.

    I have referred many people to this archive in order for them to understand this SSPX crisis.  In using the N-SSPX's own articles, and those of the SSPX priests of the resistance...it really shows the starkness of the present betrayals.

    Keep up the good work Sean.


    Machabees-

    I thank you for your kind words, especially since (back when I was still "Seraphim"), I made some rather harsh responses to you.

    I regret having done so, and these kind words of yours show the largeness of your charity for not having born a grudge.

    FWIW, you impress me.

    Sean

    Sean,

    I have always had high respect for you, and your writings.  They are very good.  I draw a lot from them.

    Yes, sometimes we have a bad day; but that happens to all of us.

    You have been forgiven before you have asked.  My prayers are with you.

    Let's keep the good fight together, through Mary, for our Lord.  He is greatly worth every thought, effort, and breath we take.

    Deo Gratias...