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Re: SSPX consecrations announced
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  • https://fsspx.news/en/news/general-house-fsspx-announces-future-consecrations-57009
    Press release dated 2 February 2026.

    On 2 February 2026, the feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin, the Reverend Father Davide Pagliarani, Superior General of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, during the ceremony of the taking of the cassock which he presided over at the International Seminary of Saint-Curé-d’Ars in Flavigny-sur-Ozerain, France, publicly announced his decision to entrust the bishops of the Society with the task of proceeding with new episcopal consecrations, on 1 July next.


    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


    Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
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  • With or without Rome's approval?


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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #3 on: Today at 06:02:11 AM »
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  • If it is without Rome's approval, we should spam every single sspx priory with phone calls asking them if they are now outside the Church because they are consecrating without Rome's permission.

    Focus on liberal countries like Germany so you will get a clearer answer. By which I mean, if they are lying and they actually DID do it with permission, they will be quick to tell us.

    Now is the moment. It has finally arrived folks.

    CLARITY on the SSPX's position.


    We can finally say they are either NOVUS ORDO, or they are outside the conciliar Church. If the latter, then ask them why they are not condemning Rome's errors clearly enough.

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
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  • With or without Rome's approval?

    Apparently without..so they say
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    Last August, he sought the favour of an audience with the Holy Father, making known his desire to present to the Holy Father, in a filial manner, the current situation of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X. In a second letter, he explicitly expressed the particular need of the Society to ensure the continuation of the ministry of its bishops, who have been travelling the world for nearly forty years to respond to the many faithful attached to the Tradition of the Church and desirous, for the good of their souls, that the sacraments of Holy Orders and Confirmation be conferred.

    After having long matured his reflection in prayer, and having received from the Holy See, in recent days, a letter which does not in any way respond to our requests, Father Pagliarani, in harmony with the unanimous advice of his Council, judges that the objective state of grave necessity in which souls find themselves requires such a decision.

    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #5 on: Today at 07:11:51 AM »
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  • Well then Rome needs to renew the excommunications, as they renewed Bishop Williamsons excommunication.

    If they don't then we can all say that they did it to Bishop Williamson, but not to the SSPX, so they implicitly approved it.

    That lack of excommunication will be extremely telling.

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #6 on: Today at 07:20:36 AM »
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  • This would be the most likely path they will take in my opinion.

    Because it fits with their deliberate ambiguity tactic the last 15 years.

    Pretend until the consecrations that they are doing without Rome's approval. (and in the meantime we can tear them apart for being outside Rome, and "disobedient" etc. etc.) and then when the consecrations come they will just not respond to the GLARING fact that Rome's excommunication did not come like with us, and play on that to imply to liberal people that Rome approved it, while to conservative and resistance people implying that they are just as much fighters as we are.

    Weak minds will not see through it, and they are counting on that. Because most people want a comfortable life.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
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  • Always realize that the SSPX have been thoroughly infiltrated, so that whatever action they take will have been carried out in close coordination with the Vatican.

    I believe that they absolutely need to give the perception that the consecrand(s) will have been selected independently of any influence from Rome.  Otherwise, had Rome approved both the consecration and the candidate(s), he / they would always operate under a cloud of suspicion, with every move of their scrutinized, so that even subtle pivots to the left would not go unnoticed.

    So, these people are evil, but not stupid.

    What I fully expect to happen is that they'll select one or two known (to them) infiltrators, in cooperation with Rome behind the scenes, and then pronounce the ex-communitication ... only to quickly lift it in the intersts of that cardinal Conciliar virtue of "mercy".

    That way, they have their cake and get to eat it too, where they give the appearance of having acted independently while also having the excomm lifted.  I speak occasionally with the new crowds at SSPX chapel, and several have told me directly that were it not for the fact that they consider SSPX to be in "good standing" with Rome and to have "jurisdiction" (they believe this propaganda), they wouldn't be there and these would undoubtedly leave.

    So, SSPX can't afford that either.  That's one of the reasons their handlers had them undertake these inexplicably imprudent projects, such as the $50 million seminary and the $25 million Immaculata, and many chapel building projects that are also on the edge of bankruptcy, stretched to the limits.  That makes it all the more essential for them to comply with the wishes of Krah / Jaidhoff, and do as they're told ... but they also can't afford to lose a significant percentate of their Mass attendees, or they'd be spending the next few years in bankruptcy courts.  That's WHY they did these stupid building projects that make absolutely no sense whatsoever, so that the controllers had even more leverage to exert against them.


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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #8 on: Today at 08:01:45 AM »
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  • Apparently without..so they say

    Yeah ... total BS.  This is Kayfabe for the consumption of the laity.  As explained above, they must give the appearances of the new consecrand(s) being independent of any influence from Rome, to allow them to be effective in carrying out the liberalizing / modernizing agenda.

    That's also probably why, for the first time in over a decade, that SSPX objected publicly to anything done by the Vatican ... with regard to the Co-Redemptrix controversy.

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #9 on: Today at 08:08:13 AM »
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  • Told you.  Very first comment I see on X under the announcement.
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    Plese, father Pagliarini. Do not do it! It would be a risk for all the church. Be patient! All the people that love the Traditional Latin Mass would be affected by this new consecrations. You have new ways to comunicate Rome the dessire of new bishops. Remember 1988.


    Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #10 on: Today at 08:24:55 AM »
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  • :popcorn:
    :popcorn:

    I will will watch this whole mess unfold with a pleasure I have not felt for a long time. 

    Should I feel guilty? 
    ....
    Nah...


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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #11 on: Today at 08:27:57 AM »
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  • It's the kind of pleasure you feel when you suffer at the hands of someone for so long, and God does nothing.

    Then finally He strikes, and the effect is more beautiful than you could imagine.

    It vindicates you.

    God blinds His enemies with confusion and chaos.



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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #12 on: Today at 08:32:17 AM »
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  • It's the kind of pleasure you feel when you suffer at the hands of someone for so long, and God does nothing.

    Then finally He strikes, and the effect is more beautiful than you could imagine.

    It vindicates you.

    God blinds His enemies with confusion and chaos.

    It's called Schadenfreude.

    Fire in the hole! 

    Offline Against the Heresies

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
    « Reply #13 on: Today at 08:35:47 AM »
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  • Whether with or without the permission of the modernists is utterly irrelevant.

    What matters far more is who the candidates for consecration will be and whether they will still (to some extent) embody the spirit of the archbishop.

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    Re: SSPX consecrations announced
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  • They will be Fellay-like youngsters that are easily controlled, but energetic enough to do the tasks of their bishops worldwide. They won't consecrate any Lefebvres/Williamsons