Author Topic: SSPX Communique after meeting of all Superiors (Read 25304 times)

stgobnait · « **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2016, 09:34:54 AM »

The Superiors have kicked to touch....

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2016, 10:06:39 AM »

Quote from: knish

is there any part of you that feels maybe -- just maybe -- the resistance was wrong about Bishop Fellay?

I can only guess that +Tissier and +de Galarreta must have resisted +Fellay and assistants to their face and got enough support and +Fellay backed down somewhat. I'm not impressed with the Communique (to say the least). It is ambiguous and lacks any conviction. Totally spineless. Too little, too late!

As wallflower said, "Were they to accept a recognition tomorrow, this communique would still all be true". And they may. I just hope the two other bishops jump ship.

Prayerful · « **Reply #12 on:** June 29, 2016, 10:26:43 AM »

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The “restoration of all things in Christ” intended by Saint Pius X, following Saint Paul (cf. Ep.h 1:10), cannot happen without the support of a Pope who concretely favors the return to Sacred Tradition. While waiting for that blessed day, the Society of Saint Pius X intends to redouble its efforts to establish and to spread, with the means that Divine Providence gives to it, the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Reads like 'maybe with a new Pope but the recognition is off for now.'

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Bistum Regensburg
June 22, 2016

The Bishop of Regensburg welcomes any initiative to overcome a schism, the rapprochement of groups separated from the Catholic Church and therefore to recover the visible unity of the Church.

The Ordinations announced for Zaitzkofen [Bavaria, Germany] on July 2, 2016, do not represent any danger presently, as the secretary of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, Archbishop Pozzo explains. It does not follow that they are canonically licit, nor an implicit recognition of the licitness of the consecration of the officiating bishop of the Society. The ordinations are only tolerated and accepted, without sanctions. This reflects a favor freely granted by the Holy See in view of a hoped-for convergence of the Society, after a period of intense reflection and examination. The criterion for the recognition of the Society is and remains the full affirmation of the authority of the Second Vatican Council and all its docuмents (religious freedom, ecuмenism etc.).

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This statement of the bishop of Regenburg is relevant. Cardinal Mueller said as much too. The German Conciliar bishops want a full SSPX surrender to the Vatican 2 or nothing.

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 29, 2016, 10:29:52 AM »

I'm surprised that some think this communique states that all negotiations are off until the Pope converts. I think it says the opposite. But I could be wrong.

SanMateo · « **Reply #14 on:** June 29, 2016, 10:41:58 AM »

To me, this is clearly letting everyone know that there will be no "deal" right now. It obviously doesn't put it out of the question in the future, but I can already see here that everyone aligned with the Resistance will not be able to accept the fact that there is no deal. Back to the ol' drawing board.

Can we not take a moment to thank God for all of the prayers that helped to thwart a Reconciliation? Is this not good news for the time being? Would we have rather seen the deal go through? i think, in many cases, yes, because then we could all give a big, "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!"

Yet it didn't happen . . .

I just saw on Facebook someone call this Communique a "death blow to the Resistors."

Thoughts?