Author Topic: SSPX Chapel Laity Who Will Stop Supporting The SSPX (Read 7988 times)

Charles · « **on:** May 21, 2012, 02:03:35 PM »

To those who do in fact attend SSPX Masses, but will stop if they make a deal with the Church :
- where will you attend Mass ?
- do you have a back-up plan ?
- has your priest already said he will leave the Society and things will remain the same at your chapel ?

finegan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:10:12 PM »

Quote from: Charles

To those who do in fact attend SSPX Masses, but will stop if they make a deal with the Church :
- where will you attend Mass ?

Not sure -- considering all options at this point

- do you have a back-up plan ?

No, we don't have a lot of good alternatives in our area

- has your priest already said he will leave the Society and things will remain the same at your chapel ?

No. In fact, our resident priests seem to be supporting the deal.

Diego · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:16:18 PM »

Quote from: Charles

To those who do in fact attend SSPX Masses, but will stop if they make a deal with the Church :
- where will you attend Mass ?
- do you have a back-up plan ?
- has your priest already said he will leave the Society and things will remain the same at your chapel ?

Depends on what "the deal" entails and how it goes.
We have two independent chapels available.
Our priests don't even know who Krah is.

Incredulous · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:35:01 PM »

Quote from: Charles

To those who do in fact attend SSPX Masses, but will stop if they make a deal with the Church :
- where will you attend Mass ?
- do you have a back-up plan ?
- has your priest already said he will leave the Society and things will remain the same at your chapel ?

Good question Charles!

The general plan is to identify and support validly ordained TLM priests.

The independent priest are our last line of defense against consiliar madness.

Bp. Williamson has always stated that the SSPX has no monopoly on Catholic tradition. He has praised independent priests as being courageous, without enjoying the comforts of formation that +ABL built-up in the SSPX.

Today, the SSPX's top leadership has been seduced to join the madness.
As in a chess game, they've been planning ahead to corral the majority of independent priests.

Bp. Fellay has been running an independent priest "outreach program" for the past three years. The theme is to send out SSPX priest to become "buddy-buddy" with the independents and bring them into the SSPX fold. We've seen this with independent TLM priests in California

We discovered the "why" of the "outreach program" from Bp. Fellay's Feb 2012 Winona talk. Here, he essentially stated that independent priests who do not associate themselves with the neoSSPX, will be branded schismatic and vagus.

So, God willing, we should support the independents and not allow this to
happen on our watch.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:15:05 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous

We discovered the "why" of the "outreach program" from Bp. Fellay's Feb 2012 Winona talk. Here, he essentially stated that independent priests who do not associate themselves with the neoSSPX, will be branded schismatic and vagus.

What abject hypocrisy.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:55:00 PM »

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The independent priest are our last line of defense against consiliar madness.

The independent priests are not the ONLY line of defense against conciliar madness.

All of the traditional groups have priests that are validly ordained. BTW, ALL of the independent priests and the trad group priests hold a sedevacantist position.

Incredulous · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:57:20 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Incredulous
We discovered the "why" of the "outreach program" from Bp. Fellay's Feb 2012 Winona talk. Here, he essentially stated that independent priests who do not associate themselves with the neoSSPX, will be branded schismatic and vagus.

What abject hypocrisy.

and/or... Novus ordo cunning.

Incredulous · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2012, 05:01:41 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

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The independent priest are our last line of defense against consiliar madness.

The independent priests are not the ONLY line of defense against conciliar madness.

All of the traditional groups have priests that are validly ordained. BTW, ALL of the independent priests and the trad group priests hold a sedevacantist position.

Hmm... true to some extent.

What happens to the priests after their order is syncretized?

How long can they operate without participating in what Bishop Tissier describes as the "bastardized sacraments" ?

TKGS · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2012, 05:50:20 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

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The independent priest are our last line of defense against consiliar madness.

The independent priests are not the ONLY line of defense against conciliar madness.

All of the traditional groups have priests that are validly ordained. BTW, ALL of the independent priests and the trad group priests hold a sedevacantist position.

First of all, both points given above are objectively false.

Secondly, We could only wish for the second point to be true, but, sadly, it is not.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2012, 05:56:37 PM »

What possible justification does the SSPX have for being independent all these years that an independent priest does not have?

Do those priests lose the right to resist Vatican II because Opus Fellay now accepts it?

Or did the SSPX never have the right to resist Vatican II?

LordPhan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2012, 06:49:27 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

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The independent priest are our last line of defense against consiliar madness.

The independent priests are not the ONLY line of defense against conciliar madness.

All of the traditional groups have priests that are validly ordained. BTW, ALL of the independent priests and the trad group priests hold a sedevacantist position.

This is an absolute lie.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2012, 09:48:10 PM »

Quote from: LordPhan

Quote from: Emerentiana

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The independent priest are our last line of defense against consiliar madness.

The independent priests are not the ONLY line of defense against conciliar madness.

All of the traditional groups have priests that are validly ordained. BTW, ALL of the independent priests and the trad group priests hold a sedevacantist position.

This is an absolute lie.

:confused1:

LordPhan · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2012, 09:50:05 PM »

referring to this statement "BTW, ALL of the independent priests and the trad group priests hold a sedevacantist position."

which is a lie.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2012, 09:51:45 PM »

Quote from: LordPhan

referring to this statement "BTW, ALL of the independent priests and the trad group priests hold a sedevacantist position."

which is a lie.

Ah!

Agreed.

Zorayda · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2012, 10:39:48 PM »

The SSPX priests I know are going to fight this whole sellout off. This is going to be messy! I'm sure strategies are in the making. This really SUCKs!!! Congratulations Bp. Fellay for wreaking havoc & pandemonium in the once stable SSPX! Are you happy now? Are you proud of yourself?