Apparently the SSPX chapel in a southern state has no idea what has developed in recent years in the resistance to the SSPX deal with Rome. I don't know where they've been. I merely mentioned that I went to Brazil to meet with the latest priest ordained by Bishop Williamson and the coordinator intends to strike an argument with me about how Bishop Williamson is not with the resistance. Makes no difference to me about all these "my group is better than yours attitudes", but it is strange how these folks have no idea what's been happening for the last couple years. I even mentioned it to a parishioner about the diocesan priests being sent in to preside over SSPX marriages and they had no idea what I was talking about. Seems strange. 
     Personally, my focus is spirituality and growing in my spiritual life, but I had no choice but respond with the fact that Bishop Williamson has three bishops helping him. All in all, I guess I am just so surprised that in this day and age there are so many people that have no idea what is going on in the Catholic world. Probably too busy watching the Saints vs Vikings play. Ask them about football and I bet they can talk for hours, but they don't even know that there were three Traditional bishops from the Lefebvre line consecrated within the last three years. Goodness gracious.

Dude-

I stuck around after Mass today for adult catechism class, since it was announced from the pulpit that Mediator Dei (Piux XII on the liturgy - 1947) was going to be discussed.

I never do this, but since the liturgical deform is a hotspot of mine, I made a conscious attempt to stick around, because something told me I should.

I was appalled by the level of knowledge (i.e., lack of it) among the parishioners, as evinced by the questions they were asking.

With two exceptions, they were totally clueless (Since I know my chapel watches me, the two who impressed me were PB and SH).

It really is incredible how ignorant lifelong SSPXers can be!

I could say much more, but I don't want to make trouble at my chapel.

I have never heard of Mediator Dei.

But in all seriousness, if people only go to the SSPX because of the Mass then what do you expect? If the only amount of Catholic doctrine they get is from a 10 minute sermon on Sunday or a bit of Adult Catechism then you know you have a problem. No wonder people won't bat an eye when an agreement happens for it is not a matter of if but when.

I am biting my lip bloody to keep it shut.
I will email you.

    I'm all for focus on spiritual life. I go to the SSPX chapel for the Mass and Sacraments. If they were preaching heresy, I wouldn't go. But that's about the bottom line for me. I've heard, even recently, outstanding sermons by the SSPX priests that offer Mass at the local chapel.
   Despite this, I am baffled that they (lay folks) don't know a thing about developments in the Catholic world in the last several years and even go so far as to spread rumors regarding Bishop Williamson's support of any Catholic Resistance to the Menzingen sell out. Of course, we know why this is. A good deal of it can be attributed to Father Pfeiffer's operation a bit north of here. In other words, Bishop W does not support Father Pfeiffer ergo Bishop W does not support the Resistance. People who don't know what they're talking about should just know when to shut up. I don't have the energy left over to debate with these folks. Maybe S. Johnson will pay us a visit.

Sorry, but you were the one who accused your fellow parishioners of ignorance.

I only shared my common experience.

    I'm all for focus on spiritual life. I go to the SSPX chapel for the Mass and Sacraments. If they were preaching heresy, I wouldn't go. But that's about the bottom line for me. I've heard, even recently, outstanding sermons by the SSPX priests that offer Mass at the local chapel.
   Despite this, I am baffled that they (lay folks) don't know a thing about developments in the Catholic world in the last several years and even go so far as to spread rumors regarding Bishop Williamson's support of any Catholic Resistance to the Menzingen sell out. Of course, we know why this is. A good deal of it can be attributed to Father Pfeiffer's operation a bit north of here. In other words, Bishop W does not support Father Pfeiffer ergo Bishop W does not support the Resistance. People who don't know what they're talking about should just know when to shut up. I don't have the energy left over to debate with these folks. Maybe S. Johnson will pay us a visit.

I also attend SSPX chapel for Sacraments. And I stay informed about the Church Crisis by reading everything from Remnant, Eleison comments, TIA, and even pope Francis himself (the majority of the time it is his cronies who speak on his behalf..or on their own behalf even) 
Most of the people I know who are either resistance or sspx do not stay sufficiently informed. Possibly they allow themselves to be too distracted by daily life. Maybe they think their own prayer life will help mitigate any evil they might be exposed to. Only God knows though. His Will be done. 

I can’t speak for all but some, like myself, do take a great deal of time studying The Faith, and the crisis, and still receive the Sacraments from SSPX priests. 

I truly believe we get the priests we pray for. I do not have resistance priests anywhere near me, but I am truly grateful to God for providing my family with good priests to at least bring us The Sacraments. 
God does provide, and I pray for diligence also. 

How much of this would you say is on the SSPX priests?

If my eyes were open enough to see the changes, it is only because the SSPX priests I grew up with taught us about their cause, what they stood for and why. They had a missionary spirit the teach the faithful not just the pretty parts of the Faith but also about her enemies, their operations, about the Crisis, its consequences, and how all of that affects our daily lives and the decisions we make. We heard it from the pulpit, in conferences and around the dinner table. We heard about groups that made agreements and how that went. We heard about developments and/or antics in Rome. We knew our confessions and marriages were valid and why. We were taught utmost confidence in supplied jurisdiction as being part of the wisdom of the Church. The Crisis wasn't all they talked about but it was frequent enough that you'd have to be willfully disconnected not to hear it and take it to heart at some point.

They must not be doing this anymore. Or if they are, it must be a diluted, pro-agreement, Frankenstein version. We all must take a personal interest in these matters of Faith, but we don't know what we don't know and many do not do well self-taught. There has to be a lack of leadership contributing to the problem too. I was dismayed that no one seemed to bat an eye with the marriage deal (other than France, merci la France!). But maybe many priests haven't even mentioned it (who but the most liberal would boast such a thing?!) or maybe they just aren't teaching the Crisis as profoundly as they used, so no one even realizes what that deal means beyond the superficial claims. Understandably from their perspective, priests who want to remain in good standing will not promote the Resistance, but they must not even be teaching the Crisis like they used to, or they would unwittingly be promoting the Resistance.

Well informed parishioners are the exception not the rule.  All through the Churches history most folks followed what their parishes/ priests taught.  The majority did not pull out Papal Bulls and Encyclical’s to study the nitty gritty of the Catholic faith.  They studied their Catechism and listened to the priest.

Those who dig deeper have been given a special grace.  Pray for those who have not yet received this grace and pray for those priests who no longer teach these topics.

I have to wonder if maybe the decline of fighting spirit against modernism by the SSPX began with Summorum Pontificuм in 2007, and then the 'lifting' of the excommunications of the SSPX bishops in 2009. Maybe the these concessions by Rome were seen by the SSPX as an acceptance of them by the Roman authorities, of sorts. The desire to be accepted can be a powerful motivator. One can forget the bigger picture.