Author Topic: SSPX changes in the South (Read 6216 times)

Matthew · « **on:** February 10, 2016, 09:33:31 PM »

Fr. Riccomini is no longer prior of the Phoenix, AZ chapel.

Also, Fr. Chavarria (who was also based at the Phoenix, AZ chapel) is reportedly staying full time at the priests' house in San Antonio, next to St. Joseph's Chapel. This house used to be used only on the weekends, since San Antonio isn't a Priory and doesn't get a resident priest.

Can anyone confirm this?

If true, it would make (at least) the second time the SSPX has done this -- a new trend? The SSPX also sent Fr. Doran to live alone outside New Orleans, LA right before Fr. Doran left the SSPX.

Is sending priests to live alone a new trend in the SSPX? +ABL was vehemently against this, for the sake of the priests. He knew from his experience in the Missions how dangerous it was to thus isolate the priests.

Incredulous · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2016, 09:47:30 AM »

In Bp. Fellay's expulsion stories past, he's portrayed as the heroic father who saves other priests, seminarians and faithful from the scandal by isolating the "bad fruit".

Can someone provide a rough profile of Father Chavarria?

How long has he been a priest?

How was he drifting from the corporate line?

Did he violate one of Father Wegner's re-branding laws?

Thou shalt not:

1. Talk about the Jєωs.
2. Criticize newChurch.
3. Support gun ownership.
4. Accept 3-Days of Darkness prophecies.
5. etc.....

Matthew · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2016, 11:50:30 AM »

All I can add to this discussion is the very little I know about Fr. Chavarria, namely

A) He was ordained in 2012 by Bishop Fellay in St. Mary's, KS
B) He was posted to the Phoenix, AZ priory for about a year (which is 1/3 of his priestly life)
C) He is in his very early 30's.
D) I've heard mostly good things about him. But I haven't verified any of it for myself; I still haven't met him. (I haven't been to Mass at St. Joseph's in San Antonio since Fr. Chavarria was posted there; We have weekly Mass here at St. Dominic's Chapel now, and I can't ever be absent)

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2016, 11:55:53 AM »

Of course I pray that Fr. Chavarria, as well as every other priest in the SSPX, does the right thing eventually. I don't want any priest to be lost eternally.

Before long, each and every one of them will have to choose between GOD and THE DEVIL. I know that sounds a bit dramatic, but it's true. They will eventually have to choose between Modernism/error/the World, and Jesus Christ with His true Faith that does not change.

Perhaps right now they can stay SSPX priests and not commit any grave sins, but that will eventually change. Perhaps sooner than you think.

Because it's a fact that the SSPX is toast. Unless God works a miracle (all the leadership of the SSPX goes to bed one night and each is visited by 3 ghosts like Ebeneezer Scrooge) there's no way the SSPX is going to turn around. It's not just Bishop Fellay, remember? There is a whole "fifth column" within the SSPX that has a whole different view of how to deal with the Conciliar Church and the Crisis in the Church. These people want to be FSSP, but for some twisted reason they want to take the entire SSPX with them.

And right now those of the "pro-Modernist-Rome" persuasion are firmly in control of the SSPX and all its positions of power and influence. Humanly speaking, it's over for the SSPX. That's why I call them the neo-SSPX now. A certain transformation has already happened, and is permanent and complete.

But I'm prompt and willing to write off the SSPX because it doesn't have a soul, and I (wisely) know that God doesn't NEED the SSPX. So I'm perfectly willing to write off the entire organization.

Now as to the individuals within the organization, that's another story... for both priests and laity, I hold out tons of hope that they will eventually leave rather than be absorbed by Modernist Rome.

Stubborn · « **Reply #4 on:** February 11, 2016, 12:54:53 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

All I can add to this discussion is the very little I know about Fr. Chavarria, namely

A) He was ordained in 2012 by Bishop Fellay in St. Mary's, KS
B) He was posted to the Phoenix, AZ priory for about a year (which is 1/3 of his priestly life)
C) He is in his very early 30's.
D) I've heard mostly good things about him. But I haven't verified any of it for myself; I still haven't met him. (I haven't been to Mass at St. Joseph's in San Antonio since Fr. Chavarria was posted there; We have weekly Mass here at St. Dominic's Chapel now, and I can't ever be absent)

Fr. Chavarria is awesome. He left (was transferred) to Phoenix toward the end of 2012 if I remember correctly, but he is certainly one of the good ones.

He's in your neck of the woods now so I hope one day you can get to one of his masses maybe get a chance to meet him Matthew.

Matthew · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2016, 01:04:25 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Fr. Chavarria is awesome. He left (was transferred) to Phoenix toward the end of 2012 if I remember correctly, but he is certainly one of the good ones.

He's in your neck of the woods now so I hope one day you can get to one of his masses maybe get a chance to meet him Matthew.

I keep telling people, I'm not against the individual priests. I have no doubt that many of them are wanting to be Catholic, save souls, be good priests, etc.

The problem is the organization they are a part of, which has fallen (past tense) and has no future.

On the topic of meeting Fr. Chavarria someday, I might meet him if I attend the "Mission Trail Pilgrimage" again in San Antonio this May. Last year I went, but Fr. Zigrang was still pastor. And I had *just* stopped going to St. Joseph's at that point.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2016, 02:15:33 PM »

Matthew,

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A certain transformation has already happened, and is permanent and complete.

Couldn't agree more. My grandfather always said that the sspx was "wishy washy" on rome/new mass, and eventually they would have to choose. Seems the organization has chosen poorly. But there are many, many good priests whom I hope will leave when things get crazier. Yet, with all the PR/propaganda that has gone on in the last 5-10 years, my gut says it will be fewer than expected.

How many bishops opposed Henry VIII? How many priests, in all of England? Only a heroic few.

Stubborn · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2016, 02:30:00 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Stubborn

Fr. Chavarria is awesome. He left (was transferred) to Phoenix toward the end of 2012 if I remember correctly, but he is certainly one of the good ones.

He's in your neck of the woods now so I hope one day you can get to one of his masses maybe get a chance to meet him Matthew.

I keep telling people, I'm not against the individual priests. I have no doubt that many of them are wanting to be Catholic, save souls, be good priests, etc.

The problem is the organization they are a part of, which has fallen (past tense) and has no future.

On the topic of meeting Fr. Chavarria someday, I might meet him if I attend the "Mission Trail Pilgrimage" again in San Antonio this May. Last year I went, but Fr. Zigrang was still pastor. And I had *just* stopped going to St. Joseph's at that point.

I agree the problem is certainly the organization, perhaps that's one reason why he seemed to stand out as it seemed to me he was one of the exceptions within the SSPX.

Pilar · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:15:08 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Fr. Riccomini is no longer prior of the Phoenix, AZ chapel.

Also, Fr. Chavarria (who was also based at the Phoenix, AZ chapel) is reportedly staying full time at the priests' house in San Antonio, next to St. Joseph's Chapel. This house used to be used only on the weekends, since San Antonio isn't a Priory and doesn't get a resident priest.

Can anyone confirm this?

If true, it would make (at least) the second time the SSPX has done this -- a new trend? The SSPX also sent Fr. Doran to live alone outside New Orleans, LA right before Fr. Doran left the SSPX.

Is sending priests to live alone a new trend in the SSPX? +ABL was vehemently against this, for the sake of the priests. He knew from his experience in the Missions how dangerous it was to thus isolate the priests.

I have known them both since they were children. They are excellent young priests and neither their vocations nor their loyalty to the SSPX is in danger! Why is so much made of rumor on this forum? It is wrong.

Incredulous · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2016, 03:30:42 AM »

Things change!

StarOfTheNorth · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:52:47 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Fr. Riccomini is no longer prior of the Phoenix, AZ chapel.

Also, Fr. Chavarria (who was also based at the Phoenix, AZ chapel) is reportedly staying full time at the priests' house in San Antonio, next to St. Joseph's Chapel. This house used to be used only on the weekends, since San Antonio isn't a Priory and doesn't get a resident priest.

Can anyone confirm this?

If true, it would make (at least) the second time the SSPX has done this -- a new trend? The SSPX also sent Fr. Doran to live alone outside New Orleans, LA right before Fr. Doran left the SSPX.

Is sending priests to live alone a new trend in the SSPX? +ABL was vehemently against this, for the sake of the priests. He knew from his experience in the Missions how dangerous it was to thus isolate the priests.

Fr. Riccomini (by his own request) is taking a leave of rest at the Seminary due to health issues, considering that his father died of a sudden heart attack early in life. God grant Fr. Riccomini long life and the best of health to serve Him as a good holy priest.

As far as Fr. Chavarria, perhaps with the unexpected changes of a new prior/priors (aka priests flying in to help out, perhaps several) Fr. Chavarria needed to be housed in a different location due to logistics...??

Wessex · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2016, 08:18:56 AM »

Ah, the dynamics of change! I agree with Matthew about Bp. Fellay wanting his flocks to be more more like those of the FSSP. Purge the Society of all character and you get a nice polite group of people versed in all things tasteful at the expense of true substance. The picturesque side of conciliarism courtesy of Ecclesia Dei is a Napoleonic solution which Menzingen has warmed to. But it has taken a couple of generations to effect the drift from hard to soft and it should not be difficult to predict what another two generations of drifting will accomplish! Maybe the SSPX will be the last conciliar entity standing proclaiming the beauty of V2!

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2016, 09:31:05 PM »

Oh the last several years have really changed things. My wife ( fm a Maronite Cath rite and E.Orthodox background ) now likes the SSPX more than I do. I just don't see any militancy greater than that of the Diocesan priest who says the Latin Mass on wed. evenings, probably less actually. And THAT priest won't defend the SSPX's expulsion of Bp. Williamson. :reporter:

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2016, 01:06:55 AM »

I had not heard anything about Fr. Riccomini being actually removed from the Phoenix priory or Fr. Chavarria living in the rectory during the week in San Antonio. What I do know is that Fr. Riccomini was to be gone due to health and that Fr. Chavarria told me directly that he would not be in San Antonio for the next three weeks as others at the chapel also had learned.

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2016, 01:51:51 AM »

Kepha, thanks for chiming in.

Moreover, someone else (who attends St. Joseph's in San Antonio) also said that Fr. Chavarria is not staying at the rectory during the week. So that's at least 2 people saying that part is not correct.