I received an e-mail last night from an individual who has been attending Mass at the SSPX chapel in San Antonio:

I will be at mass this Sunday.  I saw the post on cathinfo regarding Fr. Chavarria.  What I can say is we had a visiting priest a couple weeks ago (English or Irish, heavy accent, older) and he made a comment that they just had their conference and no news was good news. About a minute later he made a point of saying if he was ever forced to say the Novus Ordo Mass he would quit and become a taxi driver in New York.

Last week Fr. Chavarria was making the announcements and said there will be catechism and (mumbled, not sounding happy at all) that they will be going over Pope Francis's book on the year of mercy.

So read into that what you will.......

See you Sunday

So either Fr. Chavarria doesn't like the new Catechism curriculum but he's going to implement it anyhow because his bosses tell him to, or he is all for it. Now I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's doing it only because of pressure from on high. But the results for the parishioners in San Antonio will be the same!

See I've been saying all along that the "bosses" are the problem. It doesn't matter if you have saintly priests, if the bosses are all closet Novus Ordo sympathizers and command you to do X, Y, and Z which go against Tradition.

I'll repeat again: the good priests are going to have to choose eventually.

Just a guess mind you but I don't think the visiting priest had the resistance in mind when he made that comment about becoming a taxi driver. I think there are plenty of SSPX priests who feel that way.

Fr. Chavarria preached against the NO from the pulpit more than once a few years ago, so I am siding with he's not happy at all with going over the pope's book in catechism class. I wish I could be there for that, my guess is he will either condemn it, or pick out the one or two things from the book that might be ok, and then he will say he could only speak on the few things that were ok because the rest of the book is full of heresies/errors/ etc.

At least that's the Fr. Chavarria I remember.

Quote from: Matthew

So either Fr. Chavarria doesn't like the new Catechism curriculum but he's going to implement it anyhow because his bosses tell him to, or he is all for it. Now I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's doing it only because of pressure from on high.

Frankly, if he's doing it because of pressure from above, that's worse that if he's all for it.  Obviously, the effects upon the simple faithful are the same, but if he's going to implement something he knows is wrong he's just another wolf in sheep's clothing.

Sounds pretty ridiculous to me that Fr. Wegner has told priests to start teaching catechism from Francis book. Give me a break. I attended a series of conferences in 2003 where +Williamson went over the encyclicals of JP2. It had nothing to do with agreeing with them or being forced to teach them.

Fr. Chavarria is a great priest and I would bet he is going to give it the +Williamson treatment.  +Williamson also commented where JP2 said something Catholic here and there.

Yes, he could be picking it apart, but why a book on the "Year of Mercy"?

Picking apart encyclicals full of Modernism, the better to illustrate how subtle Modernism is, is very important. This is what +W did with JP2's encyclicals in 2003.

But this whole "year of mercy" thing can be refuted with a few sentences -- talking about God's justice and mercy, and that the Novus Ordo focuses only on mercy, and falls into the sin of Presumption.

Plus it's nothing new, in terms of the Conciliar Church nonsense. Why cover the LATEST pope? There's at least a danger there of human respect; trying to appear more mainstream to the man who's going to sign your "regularization" -- or the one who WON'T sign it if he's not impressed.

JP2, on the other hand, broke a lot of new ground and wrote a LOT of docuмents. He is a classic example of a post-Vatican II pope, and if you're trying to teach Modernism using examples (which is smart) I think there's a lot more material available from JP2.

But this whole bleeding heart, false mercy thing exemplified by the "year of mercy"? Pretty clear-cut if you ask me; what's to take apart?

Just like it can be informative to have an educated Trad Catholic dissect certain movies with SUBTLE errors. But why have a conference on Fifty Shades of Grey or some other trashy movie which is basically pornography? That stuff is obvious and Catholics don't need to roll around in human waste to know that it's human waste. Catholics should leave it at "It's crap; Sixth Commandment. 'nuff said."

To illustrate my point with a "reductio ad absurdam", what would you think of a priest who showed a film of actual pornography so he could explain what's wrong with it? So obviously there's a point at which IT'S NOT WORTH EVEN COVERING certain obvious subjects.

Now errors like feminism, egalitarianism, communism, etc. hide under innocent-looking disguises, and these errors are all around us, so we imbibe some of their tenets without even meaning to. But blatant immodesty and violence should be simply avoided. Everyone knows those are bad; those are clean-cut, open and shut cases.

In this vein, I think the "Year of Mercy" is pretty easy to say in a few sentences in a sermon WHY it's bad for a Catholic to jump on that bandwagon. I don't see how reading the words of Pope Francis is going to help explain it any better.

With things like this, you only need to re-iterate Catholic teaching on the matter, and it shouldn't take long to point out the error.

I guess we'll have to see how it unfolds.  I know our pastor over the past several months has gone into depth on the modern errors of prelates and, specifically, Francis versus the perennial teaching of the Church. Based upon my experience, I would expect it to be a specific and detailed condemnation rather than an endorsement.

But, we'll see.

Hopefully, someone can report here from any of several locales telling what's going on in the catechism classes.  But don't be surprised if the SSPX priests begin each class with a warning not to post any comments on the Internet about what happens in the classroom!  

If Menzingen has attended to details, they would have placed an informant in each class, someone who reports back to them as to how properly the class is being conducted..  
..It's the communist way, you know.

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