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Online Incredulous

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« Reply #165 on: March 08, 2016, 01:17:32 AM »
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  • Quote from: Mark 79
    Much of his abuse was committed "on the road" with children. Apparently that is the abuse that was reported to the priests, so.... again... after the reports of abuse he did away from "the church and summer camp" and after reports of his self-cricuмcision, why was he allowed around children at the church and summer camp?

    The reasonable interpretation consistent with BOTH the SSPX statement and the statements of "several" who reported the abuse is: "We ignored the reports because the reported abuse didn't happen at the church or summer camp. We also thought it was just fine to put parish children with a nut who attempted to circuмcise himself at the seminary."



    Did he circuмcise himself because he didn't learn about water baptism in his SSPX seminary formation?    :jumping2:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #166 on: March 09, 2016, 02:27:57 AM »
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    We have been speaking about the "ALL POINTS BULLETIN" and to that point, has the SSPX made any comment on this issue we have spent so much time discussing?


    Yes, and a disappointing comment it is: http://icc.id.sspx.org/en/faithful

    To me, this is the most troubling statement: "To date, the Society of St. Pius X has not been advised of any report of criminal activity at the church or on the summer camps."

    Why the qualifier "...at the church or on the summer camps."? The statement reeks of mental reservation.

    According to news reports, "several" people state that they reported Sloniker to the priests, yet the priests continued to allow Sloniker access to children.  Whether or not Sloniker's crimes were "at the church or on the summer camps" or elsewhere, the priests had a duty to protect the children.

    I would normally be suspicious of the news reports, but the tightly crafted statement reeking of mental reservation turns my suspicions back upon the priests for serious malfeasance.

    Even the recognition that Sloniker tried to "circuмcise" (castrate?) himself at the seminary should have alerted the priests to keep Sloniker away from children.  I wonder about the "circuмcise" description.  It is far more common for pedophiles to attempt to castrate themselves thinking that eliminating their male hormones will eliminate their evil temptations, than to simply circuмcise themselves. Either way, why didn't the priests protect the children?

    Has the SSPX learned nothing from the heinous Novus Ordo crimes and enablers?  Why are those priests still around children?
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    « Reply #167 on: March 21, 2016, 07:46:30 AM »
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  • I know Kevin Sloniker very well. He is a relative of mine and I honestly believe he is mentlly unstable. I also believe the chirch had many opportunities to intervene amd turns a blind eye to abuse.

    Perhaps no one on this forum knows but, Kevin's father is a very strict, highly abusive person. He had somethng like 13 children and he beat all of them; my mother watched Kevin be whipped with a horse whip once by his father. His mother contracted what I believe to be polio and his father wouldnt let her go to a hospital because it was Gods will and now she is wheelchair bound. This happened with his youngest son too who now walks with crutches.  They were beat if they did not recieve holy communion every week.
    Almost all the children now have serious issues and all of them behave abnormally due to their upbringing. However, as the father is very religious, the family (until this) was in good standing with the church.
    Kevin went to the seminary and was kicked out but no one knew why. He tried to join the Army and was mysteriously rejected. He wondered and bounced around, always behaving strangely.
    A family member of mine once woke up around 6 am to Kevin sitting at their kitchen table in the dark and he said hed been there for a few hours. He had literally just walked into their house while they were all asleep and just sat in the dark.
    He had a prayer closet in his room with a whip and  kneeler and he would flog himself.  Later wecheard he used the whip on his victims.
    Kevin never seemed to have an idea regarding normal social behavior was, probably due to neglect and abuse.
    I hate Kevin for what hes done and Im sick thinking of him. But, the abuse and neglect was, I believe, widely known in the parish, and practically condoned. I believe his very strict Catholic upbringing pushed him to that place and no one intervened when he was young and vulnerable. I feel the SSPX largely neglects cases of female and child abuse .
    I have even heard in person Father Crane, the priest in this case, give a sermon and FROM THE PULPIT shame a child for reporting physical abuse against his parents claiming the child was interested in entering foster care for the benefit of free college.

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    « Reply #168 on: March 21, 2016, 10:50:55 AM »
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  • Dancing:
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    I feel the SSPX largely neglects cases of female and child abuse .
    I have even heard in person Father Crane, the priest in this case, give a sermon and FROM THE PULPIT shame a child for reporting physical abuse against his parents claiming the child was interested in entering foster care for the benefit of free college.


    I think we can come in behind Dancing, and confirm at least some of what he says.  We know personally one of the sisters and the crippled brother.  This Sloniker sister is one of the nicest, sweetest persons we have ever met.  If not mistaken, she is presently taking care of her parents in their home, plus holding down a job of her own.  
    We have met the mother and father on one occasion.  Yes, the mother is confined to a wheelchair.  
    She and her husband were in a nursing home together.  A couple of years ago, the daughter, a kind, compassionate and self-sacrificing an individual, as one could ever meet, invited our "resistance" choir in Post Falls to that facility around Christmas time, in order to sing carols to those assembled in the day room.  Her parents were present, and she organized the event particularly with her parent's enjoyment in mind.
    The crippled brother is a fine person in his own right,  as friendly and harmless an individual as we've ever known.  The whole thing, as revealed by Dancing just makes us sadder and more depressed about it all.  As I said, these are two of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet, and they are totally undeserving of the kind of upbringing which they had.  It is one of those mysteries of suffering that most of us can not quite fathom.
    I will have to agree 100% with Dancing, that "the SSPX neglects cases of female and child abuse."
    By and large, at least at ICC in PF, the priests keep their distance from the people.  They are available, most of the time, either only in the confessional or by private appointment.  Otherwise, they keep their distance from the lowly lay rank and file.  Most of them would probably not know what was going on among the people anyway.  
    In another post hereafter, I'll share another anecdote about SSPX abuse and neglect.
    We know Fr. Crane too.  From our association with him, what Dancing reports, we can easily believe that Father behaved just like the former describes.

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    « Reply #169 on: March 21, 2016, 12:19:36 PM »
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    I know Kevin Sloniker very well. He is a relative of mine and I honestly believe he is mentlly unstable. I also believe the chirch had many opportunities to intervene amd turns a blind eye to abuse.

    Perhaps no one on this forum knows but, Kevin's father is a very strict, highly abusive person. He had somethng like 13 children and he beat all of them; my mother watched Kevin be whipped with a horse whip once by his father. His mother contracted what I believe to be polio and his father wouldnt let her go to a hospital because it was Gods will and now she is wheelchair bound. This happened with his youngest son too who now walks with crutches.  They were beat if they did not recieve holy communion every week.
    Almost all the children now have serious issues and all of them behave abnormally due to their upbringing. However, as the father is very religious, the family (until this) was in good standing with the church.
    Kevin went to the seminary and was kicked out but no one knew why. He tried to join the Army and was mysteriously rejected. He wondered and bounced around, always behaving strangely.
    A family member of mine once woke up around 6 am to Kevin sitting at their kitchen table in the dark and he said hed been there for a few hours. He had literally just walked into their house while they were all asleep and just sat in the dark.
    He had a prayer closet in his room with a whip and  kneeler and he would flog himself.  Later wecheard he used the whip on his victims.
    Kevin never seemed to have an idea regarding normal social behavior was, probably due to neglect and abuse.
    I hate Kevin for what hes done and Im sick thinking of him. But, the abuse and neglect was, I believe, widely known in the parish, and practically condoned. I believe his very strict Catholic upbringing pushed him to that place and no one intervened when he was young and vulnerable. I feel the SSPX largely neglects cases of female and child abuse .
    I have even heard in person Father Crane, the priest in this case, give a sermon and FROM THE PULPIT shame a child for reporting physical abuse against his parents claiming the child was interested in entering foster care for the benefit of free college.


    We knew the family for years beginning in the early nineties.  No one would have thought judging from appearances, which is why this came as such a shock.  I know one of the daughters had tried her vocation in Carmel.  This incident taught me a valuable lesson although it is now quite late in life to learn it - much truth to the old saying "Appearances are deceiving."  Don't ever take families at face value no matter how pious they appear.  

    As for the priests at ICC, try finding one (unless, of course, you have oodles of money and are a big cash cow) when you need one.  

    There's no excuse for the irresponsible way this was handled by the SSPX.   Apparently the SSPX isn't any different from the novus ordo - protecting their reputation at any and all costs.


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    « Reply #170 on: March 21, 2016, 12:21:07 PM »
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  • Dancing Eggs, thank you for coming here and shedding more light on the background.  It helped me to understand the situation better and the "why" of it.

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    « Reply #171 on: March 22, 2016, 06:53:51 AM »
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  • Where was the children's mother while these beatings and denial of medical care was taking place?  
    Dancing Eggs you are quick to criticize the SSPX clergy. Did your mother call CPS and local law enforcement after watching the father beat his child with a horse whip? Did she try to seek custody of the children?


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    « Reply #172 on: March 22, 2016, 07:27:25 AM »
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  • Tiffany I agree with you. There seems to be a huge effort to blame the priests but I don't understand what exactly is expected of them. What they hear in the confessional they can do nothing about. As for what they hear outside of the confessional, do people expect them to meddle in everyone's families and business? Because honestly that's what personally investigating or calling the police on every rumor they heard would amount to and if they did that, people would be complaining!! Those wanting to blame the clergy should take a moment to really think about that. What do they want parish life to look like in reality, in practice. Other than counseling those who ask for it, the priests aren't exactly public enforcers and they aren't meant to be.

    The blame goes where it ought to go, the father and the mother. Perhaps there were friends and neighbors who saw and did nothing.  

    Of course this is all assuming Dancing Eggs' version is completely and objectively accurate.  





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    « Reply #173 on: July 10, 2016, 03:21:50 PM »
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    I have even heard in person Father Crane, the priest in this case, give a sermon and FROM THE PULPIT shame a child for reporting physical abuse against his parents claiming the child was interested in entering foster care for the benefit of free college.


    Good heavens, this frightens me so much!

    We just received a LECTURE from Fr. Crane here in PHX this morning on how it is AGAINST Canon Law to not send your kids to Catholic school. He even mentioned that priests once refused the Sacraments to parents who did not send their children to the school.

    I think the parents in Phoenix need to get together and demand an answer from Fr. Crane regarding his CULPABILITY in the debacle with Sloniker and the boys at ICC in Post Falls!

    If, as the detective said, and the news reported, that a boy told Fr. Crane he did not want to go to camp because Sloniker had STRIPPED HIM NAKED AND HORSEWHIPPED HIM and Fr. Crane did not go to the police then Crane has a LOT to answer for!

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    « Reply #174 on: July 12, 2016, 06:45:59 AM »
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  • I do send my kids to Catholic school.  In our home.

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    « Reply #175 on: July 14, 2016, 05:13:36 PM »
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  • BTW, his sentencing, related to the 7 charges, has been postponed until 10/28/2016.
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    « Reply #176 on: July 14, 2016, 06:33:27 PM »
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  • And how is it that you would know any of the particulars regarding the Sloniker case and his actions at the parish?

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    « Reply #177 on: July 14, 2016, 06:57:02 PM »
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    And how is it that you would know any of the particulars regarding the Sloniker case and his actions at the parish?


    Published articles give detailed facts and timelines of his whereabouts and involvement.

    Case files are also available publicly.
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