Author Topic: SSPX Camp Counselor Arrested for Raping Boys in Post Falls ID (Read 49092 times)

LucasL · « **Reply #45 on:** October 28, 2015, 02:44:33 PM »

You being a bunch of cry babies , it's no wonder why we have bad priests!

Imagine a man living in a family of cry babies, "Who am I to judge?" people... of course... weak priests, weak society, weak values, weak morals.

You're the very reason why hypocrisy is one of the worst sins: You pretend fight against modernism and for tradition and at the same time act worse than people in the Novus Ordo

LucasL · « **Reply #46 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:00:56 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Only God knows the line between sin/free will and psychological debility. Only God knows the degree of guilt. I ask God for mercy upon me, for were it not for the grace of God and His grace alone, there isn't any sin I wouldn't be capable of committing. If I had grown up with this man's DNA, under his circuмstances, and experienced everything he experienced in his life, would I have been any better? I dare say that I would have turned out worse. And for the fact that I haven't I thank Our Father for His mercy.

Would you mind giving me your address? I will send this shirt as a gift , tell me how many members you have in your family I may send to them as well if they agree with you

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #47 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:19:36 PM »

No, thank you.

Magna opera Domini · « **Reply #48 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:21:56 PM »

When the civilized world was Catholic, what would have been the response of the people and the Church to this man and his monstrous crimes?

It would not have been to lament over his poor upbringing or tough knocks in life or mental instability. He is the perpetrator, not the victim.

He would have been sentenced to death for such heinous crimes, with a short interval allowed to attempt to save his soul before departing this world.

LucasL · « **Reply #49 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:25:25 PM »

Quote from: Magna opera Domini

When the civilized world was Catholic, what would have been the response of the people and the Church to this man and his monstrous crimes?

It would not have been to lament over his poor upbringing or tough knocks in life or mental instability. He is the perpetrator, not the victim.

He would have been sentenced to death for such heinous crimes, with a short interval allowed to attempt to save his soul before departing this world.

But... as many people on this thread says: "Who am I to Judge?"

Even during the French revolution, the Catholic people were not 1% mentally weak as of compared of today. They would die rather than praise a criminal.

confederate catholic · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:07:35 PM »

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There was a study done where a surprising number of people could pick out gαy men just from photos of their faces with a high degree of accuracy.

usually men can do this immediately

it is also amazing that most women can not pick out a real ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, this is also a reason why they can prey on kids who have only women around. another reason why men traditionally did the teaching. yet most chapels have predominately women teachers.

wallflower · « **Reply #51 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:13:50 PM »

Lucas there is a big difference between a person realizing that their soul is capable of the depths of evil and ... whatever fit you're having.

If *I* realize that *I* am capable of every evil and beg for God's grace and mercy, it doesn't mean I excuse the evil. It means I understand its depth and possibilities and approach my own salvation with fear and trembling. It's a realization of one's dependence, one's relationship with God's grace. It's more about one's understanding of self than it is about the other person. The sense of how evil such acts are and how sick human nature is triggers an outcry for GOD's mercy. Revelations like this ought to be a reminder for each of us to humble ourselves before God, do a little introspection. That introspection is interior and separate from the next question of what is to be done with people who prove themselves to be dangerous to society. That practical question, I agree with you, has been watered down greatly in the face of our very soft society.

As for what we are to think of the other person, shedding tears for a criminal is a perfectly Catholic thing to do, done by Our Lord Himself. He didn't sweat blood over the weight of our sins but then say "Oh except for pedophiles. They can go to Hell." The loss of any soul is worth shedding tears. Alexandria said she knows the family and is shocked by the revelation. Let her grieve in peace and hold on to what good she saw in him. Magna mentions a "short interval allowed to attempt to save his soul before departing this world." How do you think that is done, practically speaking? By force? No. Someone who still sees good in that soul, someone who still has hope for it, has to reach out and try to bring it back. Few of us are cut out for that but we should still appreciate that it has to be done. In this case, some people will be saddened and others will be angry. Both reactions are valid and even needed.

I hope this opens the eyes of some of the people vehemently against the Plan to Protect policies. (If it's been discussed here, I haven't seen the threads so this is not directed at anyone in particular.) The SSPX priests NEED protocols. Otherwise they are sitting ducks for this kind of article highlighting how they did nothing or next to it. Parents who keep thinking this doesn't happen "in the real world" (aka their own little trad worlds) need to wake up.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #52 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:29:00 PM »

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There was a study done where a surprising number of people could pick out gαy men just from photos of their faces with a high degree of accuracy.

usually men can do this immediately

it is also amazing that most women can not pick out a real ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, this is also a reason why they can prey on kids who have only women around. another reason why men traditionally did the teaching. yet most chapels have predominately women teachers.

This is very true, in my own limited experience. My wife marvels how I can spot these guys a mile away while she doesn't see it; I'm nearly always proven right.

LucasL · « **Reply #53 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:33:02 PM »

Quote from: wallflower

bla bla bla bla

REgarding criminals I have two answers: YES YES | NO NO

anything other than that is garbage to me.

Take care.

P.S: The family should be SHOCKED that they didn't find out early and prevented him to destroy the life of many children.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #54 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:34:57 PM »

Quote from: wallflower

As for what we are to think of the other person, shedding tears for a criminal is a perfectly Catholic thing to do, done by Our Lord Himself. He didn't sweat blood over the weight of our sins but then say "Oh except for pedophiles. They can go to Hell."

Very well put. St. Therese prayed deeply for the conversion of a criminal being executed. Yes, of course, justice must be served, but Catholic society should pull the lever while sincerely praying, "May God have mercy on your soul."

We are all criminals before God and can only beg His mercy.

In this case, Francis' "Who am I to judge?" does indeed apply. We will be judged with the same measure with which we judge others.

Why can't anyone find the balance? Francis will ignore the objective sin in favor of mercy, while the Trads ignore mercy and love in favor of "truth". Of course there should be no conflict between the two, but I often wonder which extreme is worse. In fact, it is not merciful NOT to admonish the sinner. But neither is it merciful, well, not to be merciful.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #55 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:37:33 PM »

Quote from: LucasL

Quote from: wallflower

bla bla bla bla

REgarding criminals I have two answers: YES YES | NO NO

anything other than that is garbage to me.

Take care.

P.S: The family should be SHOCKED that they didn't find out early and prevented him to destroy the life of many children.

Lucas, you are in great danger of losing your soul. Your attitude reminds me of the guy who throttled a debtor of his for a penny after his master had forgiven his great debt. Please ask God for guidance in this.

LucasL · « **Reply #56 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:38:26 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Quote from: wallflower
As for what we are to think of the other person, shedding tears for a criminal is a perfectly Catholic thing to do, done by Our Lord Himself. He didn't sweat blood over the weight of our sins but then say "Oh except for pedophiles. They can go to Hell."

In this case, Francis' "Who am I to judge?" does indeed apply. We will be judged with the same measure with which we judge others.

If you write another mediocre comment that shows your weakness on public with such low level of civilization and morality, I'll give you the stamp of His Holiness Pope Francis with your name signed.

And may God not help you but punish you for trying to defend paedophiles. In the good old days I'd give you a lesson with my two hands that you'd transform from a pathetic pedophile defender into a normal person
Too bad for you and for me the State Law protects you from me doing this. I wish I were in the 1800's.

LucasL · « **Reply #57 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:42:04 PM »

Well, if you don't want me to lose my soul don't defend criminals.

Are you ready to do this to save my soul or it's just another of your false mercy that reminds me of Oprah Winfrey moral teaching??

Alexandria · « **Reply #58 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:56:05 PM »

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There was a study done where a surprising number of people could pick out gαy men just from photos of their faces with a high degree of accuracy.

usually men can do this immediately

it is also amazing that most women can not pick out a real ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, this is also a reason why they can prey on kids who have only women around. another reason why men traditionally did the teaching. yet most chapels have predominately women teachers.

I usually have no trouble at all spotting them. It's not hard when they are so campy and in-your-face obvious. Even if not immediately obvious, something eventually tips you off, even if it's only a fleeting facial expression.

LucasL · « **Reply #59 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:57:10 PM »

I'm sorry. You asked for it. Until you asks Matthew to delete your comments, you deserve this. In absurd situations, one cannot act normally. It's impossible.

One day you'll thank me.