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Are people really mitigating guilt when they consider that a predator may have at one point been a victim himself? Maybe some people do. I don't think it's necessarily always the case. Simply knowing and considering the FACT that many predators were once preyed upon doesn't in any way mean a person doesn't also know that the now-predator made their choices of their own freewill and must pay the consequences.I think this is an important point to consider because it's one more piece of the puzzle, one more hint at how people and parents can spot and prevent further damage. One of my family members is watching this unfold now with her inlaws. A little girl was being molested by an extended family member. Do you know how they first spotted a problem? The little girl started to pattern the "play" with other children at daycare. She didn't know any better, this is what she had been shown. But now her parents will always have to be extra vigilant, not only that she is not victimized again, but also God forbid, that she not carry on with it herself. My family member also knows not to let her own children play unsupervised with the little girl. It's not fair, it's not the little girls' fault and they make sure the parameters set aren't obviously "marking" her, but it's a reality they can't take chances with.There are people who are simply predators from day 1 and who gravitate toward evil with relish. But a lot of people are exposed to evil as victims and then turn around and embrace it as predators. There is a psychological aspect to sin and the only time that's a problem for Catholic thought is when freewill and sin are denied or downplayed. I don't see that happening here.
Quote from: wallflowerAre people really mitigating guilt when they consider that a predator may have at one point been a victim himself? Maybe some people do. I don't think it's necessarily always the case. Simply knowing and considering the FACT that many predators were once preyed upon doesn't in any way mean a person doesn't also know that the now-predator made their choices of their own freewill and must pay the consequences.I think this is an important point to consider because it's one more piece of the puzzle, one more hint at how people and parents can spot and prevent further damage. One of my family members is watching this unfold now with her inlaws. A little girl was being molested by an extended family member. Do you know how they first spotted a problem? The little girl started to pattern the "play" with other children at daycare. She didn't know any better, this is what she had been shown. But now her parents will always have to be extra vigilant, not only that she is not victimized again, but also God forbid, that she not carry on with it herself. My family member also knows not to let her own children play unsupervised with the little girl. It's not fair, it's not the little girls' fault and they make sure the parameters set aren't obviously "marking" her, but it's a reality they can't take chances with.There are people who are simply predators from day 1 and who gravitate toward evil with relish. But a lot of people are exposed to evil as victims and then turn around and embrace it as predators. There is a psychological aspect to sin and the only time that's a problem for Catholic thought is when freewill and sin are denied or downplayed. I don't see that happening here.Pedophiles need to be brought to justice and punished to the fullest extent of the law for their own salvation and to serve as a deterrent to others contemplating committing similar crimes. At the age of 30 it's too late to reform a predator. There is no "cure" for pedophilia. They have to be isolated from children forever. A monastery could be an option after serving a very long sentence. But more than likely he will be sicker after prison than before.
the problem is that the taxpayer pay for their medication
@Ladisulaus: Looks like you still don't know why I said that your writing on DNA and "social environment " theory to understand the criminal. was heretical
Quote from: LucasL@Ladisulaus: Looks like you still don't know why I said that your writing on DNA and "social environment " theory to understand the criminal. was hereticalLike the Dimonds, you throw the term "heretical" around way too freely.
The reason is: when you put someone's else DNA on trial (trying to understand and implying that DNA + environment controls the behaviour) you're putting God's creation on trial.
What you are saying is heretical, there's no way to run from it.
It's also a sign of hypocrisy.
Does not matter how beautifully you try to picture your sorrow for the perpetrator.
Quote from: LucasLWhat you are saying is heretical, there's no way to run from it.No, what you are saying is utterly idiotic. See my previous post.
While I think I'm still right to say that Alexandria had very dark thoughts that showed on his/her comments.