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Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #150 on: November 02, 2015, 09:51:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: ClarkSmith
    The fact that he was  buying children expensive gifts and taking over night trips with them should have brought up some red flags.


    Correct.  This is stereotypical "grooming" activity.

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    And how does a guy that gets  tossed out of the seminary for trying to perform a circuмcision on himself end up being a counselor of children?  


    There is a timeline issue here.  It said that he was a counselor from 2003-2006 but got bounced from the seminary in 2005.  So there was an overlap only at the end with this incident.  Perhaps the seminary didn't put out the necessary "All Points Bulletin" to be "on the lookout" for this guy.  While he may have been deemed mentally unstable, perhaps no one deemed him an actual threat to anyone else.  There are many mentally unstable people (to varying degrees) who don't necessarily pose a threat to anyone else.

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    « Reply #151 on: November 03, 2015, 07:11:20 AM »
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  • We have been speaking about the "ALL POINTS BULLETIN" and to that point, has the SSPX made any comment on this issue we have spent so much time discussing?


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    « Reply #152 on: November 07, 2015, 10:17:01 PM »
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  • Hollywood has a new film out about child abuse scandal in the church called Spotlight.  Just in time for the holiday season, eh?  :scratchchin:

    Offline Mark 79

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    « Reply #153 on: November 10, 2015, 06:25:49 PM »
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    We have been speaking about the "ALL POINTS BULLETIN" and to that point, has the SSPX made any comment on this issue we have spent so much time discussing?


    Yes, and a disappointing comment it is: http://icc.id.sspx.org/en/faithful

    To me, this is the most troubling statement: "To date, the Society of St. Pius X has not been advised of any report of criminal activity at the church or on the summer camps."

    Why the qualifier "...at the church or on the summer camps."? The statement reeks of mental reservation.

    According to news reports, "several" people state that they reported Sloniker to the priests, yet the priests continued to allow Sloniker access to children.  Whether or not Sloniker's crimes were "at the church or on the summer camps" or elsewhere, the priests had a duty to protect the children.

    I would normally be suspicious of the news reports, but the tightly crafted statement reeking of mental reservation turns my suspicions back upon the priests for serious malfeasance.

    Even the recognition that Sloniker tried to "circuмcise" (castrate?) himself at the seminary should have alerted the priests to keep Sloniker away from children.  I wonder about the "circuмcise" description.  It is far more common for pedophiles to attempt to castrate themselves thinking that eliminating their male hormones will eliminate their evil temptations, than to simply circuмcise themselves. Either way, why didn't the priests protect the children?

    Has the SSPX learned nothing from the heinous Novus Ordo crimes and enablers?  Why are those priests still around children?

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    « Reply #154 on: November 10, 2015, 07:20:38 PM »
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  • To the Faithful

    Society of St. Pius X
    Immaculate Conception Church and Academy

    PO Box 206
    Post Falls, ID 83877

    Statement to the Faithful about Kevin G. Sloniker
    Kevin G. Sloniker had been attending and serving Mass at Immaculate Conception Church in Post Falls, ID, where he was a volunteer camp counselor in summer camps around a decade ago.

    He has been charged in state court with very serious crimes concerning children and is now in police custody.

    The Society has been cooperating fully with the police investigation of Mr. Sloniker for more than five weeks.

    To date, the Society of St. Pius X has not been advised of any report of criminal activity at the church or on the summer camps. The investigation is ongoing.

    The Society of St. Pius X, its priests, and its employees take the protection of minors most seriously. The summer camps are quite structured and supervised, and, since 2012, the Society of St. Pius X has required background checks for all camp counselors.

    The Society of St. Pius X assures all victims of abuse and their families of its compassion and prayers.

    Any further questions about this statement should be addressed to Fr. Scott Gardner, Legal Secretary: (816) 733-2522.

    October 29, 2015


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    « Reply #155 on: November 10, 2015, 08:06:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    To the Faithful

    Society of St. Pius X
    Immaculate Conception Church and Academy

    PO Box 206
    Post Falls, ID 83877

    Statement to the Faithful about Kevin G. Sloniker
    Kevin G. Sloniker had been attending and serving Mass at Immaculate Conception Church in Post Falls, ID, where he was a volunteer camp counselor in summer camps around a decade ago.

    He has been charged in state court with very serious crimes concerning children and is now in police custody.

    The Society has been cooperating fully with the police investigation of Mr. Sloniker for more than five weeks.

    To date, the Society of St. Pius X has not been advised of any report of criminal activity at the church or on the summer camps. The investigation is ongoing.

    The Society of St. Pius X, its priests, and its employees take the protection of minors most seriously. The summer camps are quite structured and supervised, and, since 2012, the Society of St. Pius X has required background checks for all camp counselors.

    The Society of St. Pius X assures all victims of abuse and their families of its compassion and prayers.

    Any further questions about this statement should be addressed to Fr. Scott Gardner, Legal Secretary: (816) 733-2522.

    October 29, 2015


    Again, why the qualifier "...at the church or on the summer camps."? The statement reeks of mental reservation.

    If someone said to you, "I didn't steal anything yesterday," what would you think?

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    « Reply #156 on: November 10, 2015, 09:25:06 PM »
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  • It's probably worded that way because WHERE ELSE would the faithful be????

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    « Reply #157 on: November 10, 2015, 10:26:38 PM »
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  • Much of his abuse was committed "on the road" with children. Apparently that is the abuse that was reported to the priests, so.... again... after the reports of abuse he did away from "the church and summer camp" and after reports of his self-cricuмcision, why was he allowed around children at the church and summer camp?

    The reasonable interpretation consistent with BOTH the SSPX statement and the statements of "several" who reported the abuse is: "We ignored the reports because the reported abuse didn't happen at the church or summer camp. We also thought it was just fine to put parish children with a nut who attempted to circuмcise himself at the seminary."


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    « Reply #158 on: November 30, 2015, 11:01:48 AM »
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  • Instead of shunning novus ordo Catholics who are faced with infertility and don't have children shun these perverts which are in SSPX and the Catholic Church.

    The faithful needs to wake up and stop worshipping bishops and other clergy and start worshipping God.  

    May God bless you and keep you

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    « Reply #159 on: February 19, 2016, 04:27:15 PM »
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  • Anyway here that's on the scene in Post Falls have an update on this?  There seems to be an information blackout on the internet regarding this.


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    « Reply #160 on: March 07, 2016, 04:19:38 PM »
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  • Maybe ICC controls the Pacific Northwest news media?   :rolleyes:

    Nothing on this???   :tv-disturbed:


    Offline Mark 79

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    « Reply #161 on: March 07, 2016, 06:10:02 PM »
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  • Well, Alexandria, I can tell you this—the solicitations for children to attend the SSPX camps have been coming in... and tossed in the trash.

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    « Reply #162 on: March 07, 2016, 06:35:44 PM »
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    Well, Alexandria, I can tell you this—the solicitations for children to attend the SSPX camps have been coming in... and tossed in the trash.


     :applause:  :cheers:

    Good for you!  They aren't to be trusted with your children.  No church organization is trustworthy anymore.

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    « Reply #163 on: March 07, 2016, 07:31:43 PM »
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  • You know, there are enough things I can be sure about, and forcefully condemn the SSPX for.

    But to be honest, I have no involvement in this case, and no idea who is "in the right". Unless we have reason to believe otherwise, we should give people the benefit of the doubt and not *always* think the worst of everyone. That really gets old.

    I don't believe there's some kind of "lavender mafia" within the SSPX, moving guilty priests around, turning a blind eye to pedophilia and abuse, and running a cover-up like in the Conciliar Church. It's not just because the SSPX hits closer to home, either. It's because I have more reason to believe there's a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity problem in the Conciliar Church. The seminaries are different; they accept different kinds of people, they have different philosophy, psychology, and even theology. The whole formation is radically different from an SSPX formation. The Novus Ordo is more touchy feely sentimental; any man who isn't repulsed by that liturgy probably has at least some gαy tendencies. (I'm only half joking there!) Plus there's the whole "Good Bye Good Men" book which shows evidence that as a matter of fact countless seminaries in the Conciliar Church are controlled by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

    So yes, there's a problem in the Conciliar Church, but it's not even likely (plus I've seen no evidence of it) that there is any such problem in the SSPX. Not even in the neo-SSPX.


    If I were local, I would be extremely vocal about this so the SSPX authorities feel compelled to take action, calm our fears, be more careful, put more safety measures in place, etc.

    But right now we have bigger -- and more certain -- fish to fry. In addition, there are things which more personally and directly affect us.
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    Offline Mark 79

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    « Reply #164 on: March 07, 2016, 10:31:28 PM »
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  • I do not believe the issue is fαɢɢօt priests, but how much diligence was shown by the priests in charge when they had:
    (1) a "self-circuмcision" that led to seminary expulsion
    and
    (2) parental reports (even if the allegations were not "at the school or camp").

    Doing the calculus, I tally ZERO diligence.

    I cannot speak for anyone else, but my children are, body and soul, incalculably valuable.