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Offline Mr G

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SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay Already Under Vatican Pressure
« on: May 10, 2017, 03:31:59 PM »
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    • https://gloria.tv/article/d1upWLvpiHTr6qrAbh2RSihvU

    The French Catholic daily La Croix has accused the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) of having mishandled a sɛҳuąƖ abuse case for which a SSPX priest received a 16 years prison sentence on May 5th in France.

    The article quotes the Vatican Commission Ecclesia Dei, which is in charge of the Old-Rite Catholics, stating that, in case of a reconciliation, the SSPX superior general Bishop Bernard Fellay would "obviously" be liable to those Vatican regulations which provide for the "revocation" of an ordinary if he has "failed to act diligently" in cases of sɛҳuąƖ abuse.

    In the past the Vatican has come under the suspicion of having used those regulations as a pretext in order to get rid of bishops of the Catholic wing, like Archbishop John C. Nienstedt of St. Paul, Minnesota, or Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City, Missouri.
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    Offline tdrev123

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    Re: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay Already Under Vatican Pressure
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 03:40:05 PM »
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    • Anybody know details about the case?  Who was the priest?
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay Already Under Vatican Pressure
    « Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 08:12:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on May 10, 2017, 03:31:59 PM
    The article quotes the Vatican Commission Ecclesia Dei, which is in charge of the Old-Rite Catholics, stating that, in case of a reconciliation, the SSPX superior general Bishop Bernard Fellay would "obviously" be liable to those Vatican regulations which provide for the "revocation" of an ordinary if he has "failed to act diligently" in cases of sɛҳuąƖ abuse.

    In the past the Vatican has come under the suspicion of having used those regulations as a pretext in order to get rid of bishops of the Catholic wing, like Archbishop John C. Nienstedt of St. Paul, Minnesota, or Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City, Missouri.
    Poor Bernard, every time he tries to get together with the Vatican II church, God puts obstacles in his way.
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    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

    Offline 1st Mansion Tenant

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    Re: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay Already Under Vatican Pressure
    « Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 11:24:22 PM »
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    • Ah- the Swiss docuмentary is taking it's toll-- as was it's intention. Next they may be be calling for charges...
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    Re: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay Already Under Vatican Pressure
    « Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 01:42:08 PM »
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    • From Non Possumus:

    Vatican: There is no date for reconciliation with Lefebvrians but the spirit is "constructive"

     There is still no date for the expected reconciliation of the Lefebvrians with Rome but the climate of dialogue is very good.
     According to the secretary of the Vatican commission responsible for dialogue with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X. Guido Pozzo says that the next step must be given by them.  The ball is on its roof.
     GUIDO POZZO

     Secretary, Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei

     "The reconciliation will occur when Monsignor Fellay formally adheres to the doctrinal declaration that the Holy See presented to him.This is the necessary condition to proceed later to the institutional regularization with the creation of a personal prelature.I have noticed that there is no longer a spirit Controversial but constructive and that the different points of view or opinions we have on some issues need not necessarily lead to division but to mutual enrichment.I have realized that for them it is important to overcome the fracture with the Holy See For them, is a priority over other concerns. "

     Before establishing the new personal prelature the Vatican will consult with the episcopal conferences in which the Fraternity currently works.

     Guido Pozzo points out that the key to reconciliation lies in understanding the Second Vatican Council.  The misunderstandings promoted by some theologians, intellectuals and the media encouraged such ruptures as the Lefebvrians.
     Benedict XVI in his Christmas message to the Curia in 2005 recalled that these erroneous readings fostered the perception that this council meant a break with the above instead of a continuity.

     "This contradiction, this 'overlap', has generated that climate of conflict and confusion, of uncertainty about the Council, which is at the base of the criticisms raised by the Fraternity of St. Pius X."

     First John Paul II and then Benedict XVI worked intensely for reconciliation with the Lefebvrians.  Francisco has taken over the witness left him and his style has not left indifferent to the Fraternity.

     It seems that the attitude of the Argentine Pope has been decisive because they have ceased to feel examined or judged by the Church and have perceived a real interest in understanding them.
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    Re: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay Already Under Vatican Pressure
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 09:34:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant on May 10, 2017, 11:24:22 PM
    Ah- the Swiss docuмentary is taking it's toll-- as was it's intention. Next they may be be calling for charges...
    It was a Swedish docuмentary. Or was there a Swiss one as well that I missed?
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    Re: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay Already Under Vatican Pressure
    « Reply #6 on: May 12, 2017, 12:08:09 AM »
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    • A key Vatican official has confirmed that the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) can be reconciled with the Holy See, if its leaders accept a doctrinal statement.
    Archbishop Guido Pozzo, the secretary of the Ecclesia Dei commission, which is handling talks with the SSPX, said that the next step is up to the traditionalist group. “The reconciliation will occur when Monsignor Fellay [the SSPX superior] formally adheres to the doctrinal declaration that the Holy See presented to him,” he said.
    Reports have circulated in Rome for several months that the Vatican is prepared to offer the SSPX the status of a personal prelature, with the only remaining condition being the acceptance of the doctrinal statement. In March, Archbishop Pozzo would allow traditionalists to continue questioning the interpretation of some disputed Vatican II docuмents.
    The archbishop said that although the climate in talks between the Vatican and the SSPX is very positive, he could not predict when an agreement will be reached.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=31550

    If this is true then you don't have to believe in Vatican II to be a good Catholic according to the Vatican. 
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