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Offline Gustinau

Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #50 on: Today at 08:40:29 AM »
Quote from: Telling on Yesterday at 02:36:45 PM
Well. Muslims profess to worship the God of Saint Abraham, and the God of Mother Mary, Who is the True God. So it is a little more complicated than that. If they formally reject Christ, then yes, they worship a false god. If they are in inculpable ignorance, and are worshipping God as best they can in the situation (e.g. if they live in a place where there are as yet no Christian Missionaries, or very few), then it is a different situation, as even the Pope Saint Pius X's Catechism admits. All the docuŠ¼ent says is that Muslims profess to worship One God, the God of Abraham.

No. No one who denies the Son has the Father. They may claim to worship a singular god all they like, it is not the Blessed Trinity, and nowhere in St. Pius X Catechism does it say they worship God.
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Offline icarlytradcath

Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #51 on: Today at 09:13:03 AM »
Quote from: Gustinau on Today at 08:40:29 AM
No. No one who denies the Son has the Father. They may claim to worship a singular god all they like, it is not the Blessed Trinity, and nowhere in St. Pius X Catechism does it say they worship God.

Wouldn't it be fair to say they worship the True God insofar as they worship "The Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent Being who Created The World" and they worship a false god insofar as they worship "The God who sent us Mahomet and The Quran and is Definitely Not a Trinity"?

It could even be argued that it depends on the prayer, if a muslim says

"Oh I worship you Allah Eternal Emperor of the Universe, have mercy upon me"

he's referring to God as Being

but if he says 

"Oh I worship you God of Mahomet who revealed to us the Quran"

he's referring to the specific demon that spoke to Mahomet.
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Offline icarlytradcath

Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #52 on: Today at 09:23:52 AM »
Quote from: icarlytradcath on Today at 09:13:03 AM
Wouldn't it be fair to say they worship the True God insofar as they worship "The Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent Being who Created The World" and they worship a false god insofar as they worship "The God who sent us Mahomet and The Quran and is Definitely Not a Trinity"?

It could even be argued that it depends on the prayer, if a muslim says

"Oh I worship you Allah Eternal Emperor of the Universe, have mercy upon me"

he's referring to God as Being

but if he says

"Oh I worship you God of Mahomet who revealed to us the Quran"

he's referring to the specific demon that spoke to Mahomet.

In a sense it's not so much unlike some of the very mystical greco-roman pagans who would on the same day worship the One Eternal Deity / Monad and then offer incense to Mercury.
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Offline icarlytradcath

Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #53 on: Today at 09:31:53 AM »
Quote from: icarlytradcath on Today at 09:23:52 AM
In a sense it's not so much unlike some of the very mystical greco-roman pagans who would on the same day worship the One Eternal Deity / Monad and then offer incense to Mercury.

Also it's odd to me that the story of the Areopagus' Unknown God never gets brought up in this. It's also a fascinating story with Epimenides I reccomend reading it. St. Paul quotes a few lines from this same poem by him:

"They fashioned a tomb for thee, O holy and high one,
The Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies!
But thou art not dead: thou livest and abidest forever,
For in thee we live and move and have our being."
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Offline Gustinau

Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #54 on: Today at 10:20:01 AM »
Quote from: icarlytradcath on Today at 09:13:03 AM
Wouldn't it be fair to say they worship the True God insofar as they worship "The Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent Being who Created The World" and they worship a false god insofar as they worship "The God who sent us Mahomet and The Quran and is Definitely Not a Trinity"?

It could even be argued that it depends on the prayer, if a muslim says

"Oh I worship you Allah Eternal Emperor of the Universe, have mercy upon me"

he's referring to God as Being

but if he says

"Oh I worship you God of Mahomet who revealed to us the Quran"

he's referring to the specific demon that spoke to Mahomet.
No, I think it more fair to say they worship something entirely different from the Blessed Trinity that also happens to be a singular entity. My assumption would be the devil.
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