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Offline Stubborn

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Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #40 on: Today at 10:50:28 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on Today at 08:05:24 AM
This is definitely Nishant.  He was always obsessed with numbers.  God works miracles through small groups of dedicated people.  He doesn't need numbers.
Yep, gotta agree. I rarely pay attention to trolls like him, but hard to miss it this time.
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Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #41 on: Today at 11:07:24 AM »
Quote from: Gustinau on Today at 08:38:36 AM
Any comments on how Vatican II has outright heresy stated directly within the docuмentation, (Nostra Aetate, Chapter 3) because I'll state with absolute certainty that, God's permissive will aside, the Holy Ghost had nothing to do with the statement below.
There are some 100 Christian (majority) countries in the world. And some 50 Muslim countries. Part of the Leftist/Zionist plan for World Domination is for "Christians and Muslims to Nuke each other to smithereens". There was a Jєωιѕн Rabbi who, after insulting Christ and saying "Esau and Ishmael" meaning Islam and Christianity, are enemies to Israel, also said: "we wish them tremendous success in WIPING EACH OTHER OUT". There are 2.6 Billion Christians in the world, 2 Billion Muslims, and only 15 Million Jews. Jews know they have no chance of dominating Christians if the numbers remain as they are. So they want Ishmael/Islam to wipe out Christendom. The Papacy is well aware of this Radical Zionist Agenda and therefore starts its own Counter-Revolution (1) to unite Christians and Muslims around (2) faith in One God (2) devotion to Jesus Christ as the True Messiah (3) devotion to the Blessed Mother as the Virgin Mother of Jesus, and (4) Muslims not persecuting Christians while continuing to insist (5) Salvation is in Christ alone. Read CCC 161 on that, and CCC 846 and 848. Nothing in what you quoted, Gustinau, says that Muslims can be saved as they are, it just recognizes the positive aspects. CCC 846, quoting Lumen Gentium, clearly says there is no Salvation outside the Church, and Muslims who have heard of Jesus must accept Him as their Savior and accept Baptism and enter the Church. There is no question therefore of denying EENS here. 
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Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #42 on: Today at 11:13:17 AM »
Quote from: Stubborn on Today at 09:33:35 AM
You are using Scripture against itself.

That the Holy Ghost continues to guide the Catholic Church and will do so till the end of time is not the issue,  abandoning the true faith for a new faith is what the issue is, because that is what V2 did - that's reality.
So you admit the Holy Ghost will always guide the Catholic Church, but not the Roman Catholic Church? Do you believe the Catholic Church is in Rome today, i.e. is the Roman Catholic Church, or do you believe the Church of Rome in our day has completely defected into heresy and apostasy, and lacks the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God? Do you know Pre-Vatican II Theologians like Msgr. Fenton, and even Cardinal Saint Robert Bellarmine, held your view to be impossible? If a Council of Bishops can promulgate heresy, we all should just go become Old Catholics or Prots or something. As Pope Bl. Pius IX said in Etsi Multa. There would then be no guarantee Nicea got the Trinity correct.

SMH. Sad. Carry on. 
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« Reply #43 on: Today at 12:03:21 PM »
Quote from: Telling on Today at 11:13:17 AM
So you admit the Holy Ghost will always guide the Catholic Church, but not the Roman Catholic Church? Do you believe the Catholic Church is in Rome today, i.e. is the Roman Catholic Church, or do you believe the Church of Rome in our day has completely defected into heresy and apostasy, and lacks the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God? Do you know Pre-Vatican II Theologians like Msgr. Fenton, and even Cardinal Saint Robert Bellarmine, held your view to be impossible? If a Council of Bishops can promulgate heresy, we all should just go become Old Catholics or Prots or something. As Pope Bl. Pius IX said in Etsi Multa. There would then be no guarantee Nicea got the Trinity correct.

SMH. Sad. Carry on.
V2 was when liberalism went wild within the Church. That's reality.

Reality is that the altar is replaced by a table, altar rail removed, statues trashed in favor of purple banners, the tabernacle is disappeared, the priest faces the people and most of what he is saying is missing from the old mass, no more veils for women's heads, women are handing out communion in the hand, girls are serving, people are shaking hands in the middle of it all, the organ has been replaced with guitars and drums, seminaries empty out, nuns are all but gone, priests leave the priesthood en masse, homo priests replaces them everywhere  - - -I could go on and on with 100 more items just off the top of my head - all of it is reality.

Is this what you say is the Roman Catholic Church?

SMH. Sad. Carry on.
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Offline Gustinau

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« Reply #44 on: Today at 01:26:25 PM »
Quote from: Telling on Today at 11:07:24 AM
There are some 100 Christian (majority) countries in the world. And some 50 Muslim countries. Part of the Leftist/Zionist plan for World Domination is for "Christians and Muslims to Nuke each other to smithereens". There was a Jєωιѕн Rabbi who, after insulting Christ and saying "Esau and Ishmael" meaning Islam and Christianity, are enemies to Israel, also said: "we wish them tremendous success in WIPING EACH OTHER OUT". There are 2.6 Billion Christians in the world, 2 Billion Muslims, and only 15 Million Jews. Jews know they have no chance of dominating Christians if the numbers remain as they are. So they want Ishmael/Islam to wipe out Christendom. The Papacy is well aware of this Radical Zionist Agenda and therefore starts its own Counter-Revolution (1) to unite Christians and Muslims around (2) faith in One God (2) devotion to Jesus Christ as the True Messiah (3) devotion to the Blessed Mother as the Virgin Mother of Jesus, and (4) Muslims not persecuting Christians while continuing to insist (5) Salvation is in Christ alone. Read CCC 161 on that, and CCC 846 and 848. Nothing in what you quoted, Gustinau, says that Muslims can be saved as they are, it just recognizes the positive aspects. CCC 846, quoting Lumen Gentium, clearly says there is no Salvation outside the Church, and Muslims who have heard of Jesus must accept Him as their Savior and accept Baptism and enter the Church. There is no question therefore of denying EENS here.

Not quite what I meant. I would hope that you agree that Catholics do not worship the same God as Muslims do.
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