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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #45 on: Today at 02:30:31 PM »
Quote from: WorldsAway on Yesterday at 06:46:10 PM
C'mon man, that was some reeaal nice irony :laugh1:

But seriously, there is intrinsically ZERO difference between a "Resistance" mass and an SSPX mass. You don't get "spiritual cooties", as someone termed it, because the SSPX higher ups may or may not be working a deal with the Conciliar Church. That's got nothing to do with what goes on at the altar.

Sure, the Resistance priest might R&R a little harder at the pulpit or lectern..but 95% of the time at an SSPX mass, you're going to hear a homily about the themes of that days Gospel and how it can be applied to your spiritual life. That's literally it. I've sat through hundreds of SSPX sermons and have never heard anything that was a "danger" to the Faith (save for EENS denial, which you may be liable to hear just about anywhere, at anytime).

You're just fear mongering, trying to scare people away from valid sacraments, because you are a "True Resistance" cultist and are trying to recruit for your cult. No one is going to drive 6 hours to your cult if they can go to a valid traditional mass an hour away..unless they're convinced they will be sinning by doing so..which is where you come in. And God forbid you succeed in influencing someone to forego the Sacraments because the priest is someone you have decided is "unworthy", because you will be judged accordingly

zero difference... aside from the Jews, conditional confirmation, conditional ordination, position on approach to Rome. But yea ... no biggie that stuff...
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Offline Telling

Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #46 on: Today at 02:36:45 PM »
Quote from: Gustinau on Today at 01:26:25 PM
Not quite what I meant. I would hope that you agree that Catholics do not worship the same God as Muslims do.
Well. Muslims profess to worship the God of Saint Abraham, and the God of Mother Mary, Who is the True God. So it is a little more complicated than that. If they formally reject Christ, then yes, they worship a false god. If they are in inculpable ignorance, and are worshipping God as best they can in the situation (e.g. if they live in a place where there are as yet no Christian Missionaries, or very few), then it is a different situation, as even the Pope Saint Pius X's Catechism admits. All the docuмent says is that Muslims profess to worship One God, the God of Abraham. 
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Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #47 on: Today at 03:13:05 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Today at 02:30:31 PM
zero difference... aside from the Jews, conditional confirmation, conditional ordination, position on approach to Rome. But yea ... no biggie that stuff...
The Mass. Deliberately obtuse? Aside from potentially the homily (and again, the majority of SSPX homilies are, at least, "OK"), what is the difference between your average Resistance and SSPX Masses?
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #48 on: Today at 06:15:13 PM »
Quote from: Telling on Today at 02:36:45 PM
Well. Muslims profess to worship the God of Saint Abraham, and the God of Mother Mary, Who is the True God. So it is a little more complicated than that. If they formally reject Christ, then yes, they worship a false god. If they are in inculpable ignorance, and are worshipping God as best they can in the situation (e.g. if they live in a place where there are as yet no Christian Missionaries, or very few), then it is a different situation, as even the Pope Saint Pius X's Catechism admits. All the docuмent says is that Muslims profess to worship One God, the God of Abraham.
You are truely a fool. Muslims worship the devil not the God of Abraham. The Church teaching on this is very clear. Vatican 2 isn't church teaching but diabolical heresy. And that Pope Pius X catechism teaches invincible ignorance is an addition by the Church's enemies, ignorance does not excuse sin.
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Offline Gray2023

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Re: SSPX are truly the enemy
« Reply #49 on: Today at 06:22:41 PM »
Quote from: Telling on Today at 02:36:45 PM
Well. Muslims profess to worship the God of Saint Abraham, and the God of Mother Mary, Who is the True God. So it is a little more complicated than that. If they formally reject Christ, then yes, they worship a false god. If they are in inculpable ignorance, and are worshipping God as best they can in the situation (e.g. if they live in a place where there are as yet no Christian Missionaries, or very few), then it is a different situation, as even the Pope Saint Pius X's Catechism admits. All the docuмent says is that Muslims profess to worship One God, the God of Abraham.
God is always True.  Can the God of the Muslims who says hurt the infidels be the same God as Jesus, who said love your enemies do good to those who persecute you?  That cannot be the same God.  And isn't that how we know the new Jєωιѕн religion is not the same either because they ostracize non Jews?

This is why many of us know without a doubt that this post Vatican 2 stuff is not the same as the pre Vatican 2 stuff. (Sorry not a theologian, so some one needs to make it sound better. :cowboy:)

And I have to add Father Feeney to this list, because he also promoted hate towards people who didn't get it yet.  There is absolutely no salvation outside the Catholic church, but that is God's to decide, not man's.  We are obligated to teach the Truth, we are not obligated to force people to follow it.  We are not obligated to make rash judgments.
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