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Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

Quote from: TKGS

Apparently, it was merely a rumor after all.

I don't think so. +Fellay and company are not men of conscience. Their hearts are clearly and openly in Rome but every time the cat gets out of the bag, they back off. They have become reeds shaken with the wind.

So, are you saying that you believe that there was every intention on the part of the SSPX to make the reconciliation announcement on December 8th, but the rumor appearing on CathInfo (which is the only place I saw it) made them reconsider making the announcement today?

Maybe(?) Could also have been postponed by the plane interview and the latest insult to “fundamentalist” Catholics who believe in “absolute Truth” by Francis. That should have been a clear warning to the SSPX. Unfortunately, I don’t think that would stop the SSPX plans, only delay them. It’s unbelievable that with all the scandalous interviews and statements by Francis they are still eager to go to Rome and put themselves under their authority. We know they want that from their own mouth (Fr. Wegner, Pflugger, etc.) So, it's a matter of time.

   

And lastly, as with any "rumor" of this type, the fact that it doesn't materialize doesn't mean the facts relayed weren't true, but could mean that prayers were answered.  And if anyone took note, in his OP, Patricius asked for prayers, essentially asking that it not come to fruition:

Quote from: Patricius

Now, it is possible that a last minute glitch (our prayers?) will scrap the July agreement before it is publicized on Dec. 8th. But Bishop Schneider really said these things at a diocesan priests meeting, and he was not making a supposition or spreading a rumor. He was speaking from first hand knowledge....
Let us pray for a glitch to come, like in June 2012. We do not want the death of the Society.

I can just imagine if some people today were living in Nineve, and Jonas cried: "Yet forty days, and Ninive shall be destroyed."  And the Ninevites put on sackcloth and ashes, and the city is not destroyed, and some Ninevites get on the internet and say, "ah, this was just another rumor!"  

Not saying they are exact parallels, but just pointing out that no "agreement" today is in no way proof that anything Patricius said was untrue; it may just be that plans changed, or Bp. S was wrong, or many possibilities.  

I agree with you, CWA. Thank you for clarifying things.

I can see you have carefully read what I wrote. This becomes rarer and rarer by the day, because of the avalanche of news in all forms. People nowadays tend to read only the headlines.

So there was no announcement today. It doesn't mean that the July 2015 deal was not signed. It might just mean the powers that be decided to wait longer before to make it public, and they didn't tell Bishop Schneider. Maybe our prayers were successful and the deal was scrapped or is back to the drawing board. Maybe Bishop Schneider's revelation to the priests was meant to be a "feeler", to see what would be the reactions. Only God knows...

By the way, this bishop also told the priests that all the bishops and cardinals who visited the SSPX seminaries have been favorably impressed, and have given laudatory reports to the Pope. And remember that the bishop said that the Pope and Bishop Fellay accepted to sign in July, on the basis that both recognized that not all VII docuмents have the same doctrinal value, and that there was therefore room to discuss "problems" after an official recognition. Now, for those who follow what happens out there, you will recognize that this assertion corresponds perfectly to what Menzingen has said many times and also to Francis' "pragmatic" attitude, as opposed to BVI's more doctrinal bend.

God bless.