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Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
« on: July 06, 2019, 07:01:03 AM »
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  • An excellent talk.  This priest should be speaking at the Angelus Press Conference.
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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #1 on: July 06, 2019, 08:07:32 AM »
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  • It's a good video. A lot of useful information for laymen especially. It would indeed be better to have Fr. Ripperger speak at an SSPX conference, but unfortunately he has always been anti-SSPX. 
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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #2 on: July 06, 2019, 08:19:22 AM »
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  • It's a good video. A lot of useful information for laymen especially. It would indeed be better to have Fr. Ripperger speak at an SSPX conference, but unfortunately he has always been anti-SSPX.
    I didn't know he was always anti-SSPX ... too bad. 
    Maybe this should be moved to another topic area.

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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #3 on: July 06, 2019, 09:04:29 AM »
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  • I didn't know he was always anti-SSPX ... too bad.  
    Maybe this should be moved to another topic area.

    I like Fr. Ripperger, but just have to take him with a grain of salt. I have several of his books. IMO, it's good to have an exorcist's POV in these trying times in the Church. He says a lot of good things, even if he has it wrong when it comes to the status of the SSPX.
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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #4 on: July 06, 2019, 03:12:31 PM »
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  • Father Ripperger seems very strongly Thomistic in many ways.  I don't agree with him about some things, but I respect him.  Of course, he was ordained by a New Rite "bishop", so that could also be an issue.


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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #5 on: July 06, 2019, 07:09:23 PM »
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  • I like Fr. Ripperger, but just have to take him with a grain of salt. I have several of his books. IMO, it's good to have an exorcist's POV in these trying times in the Church. He says a lot of good things, even if he has it wrong when it comes to the status of the SSPX.
    What is his issue with the SSPX?
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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #6 on: July 06, 2019, 08:46:21 PM »
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    It's a good video. A lot of useful information for laymen especially. It would indeed be better to have Fr. Ripperger speak at an SSPX conference, but unfortunately he has always been anti-SSPX. 

    Well, yeah!  I have heard him on at least two occasions. from his lips to my ear, assert that sspx sacraments are not valid, including marriage and confessions;that folks should leave the sspx.  I don't think it would be good for Fr. R to speak at an sspx conference.  I would suggest that Fr. R. give up speaking altogether.  For him to speak at the upcoming Angelus conference, would IMHO, simply add confusion to an already confused, not to mention, dull list of speakers.

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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2019, 01:38:18 AM »
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  • from his lips to my ear, assert that sspx sacraments are not valid, including marriage and confessions;that folks should leave the sspx.
    It is he who might not even be a priest, for he was ordained by a Novus Ordo new formula bishop as Ladislaus pointed out. 

    Whenever, I hear a Novus Ordo priest give the same "warning" about SSPX marriages and confessions, I inform to them that before the 1960's there were about 50 annulments a year worldwide and  that from the 1970's forward up to 50,000+ just in the USA. I then ask them what percentage of the SSPX marriagees are living in adultery vs the Novus Ordo annulments and re-married?

    With certainty of faith, and by its fruits, I believe my SSPX marriage is a Catholic marriage. I do not believe with certainty of faith that Novus Ordo priests are priests, AND I believe with certainty of faith that except for a few hundred annulments, all Novus Ordo annulments are invalid, and those who are re-married, are living in the perpetual state of mortal sin of adultery and they know it, they just have learned to numb their conscience.
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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2019, 04:37:45 AM »
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  • Well, yeah!  I have heard him on at least two occasions. from his lips to my ear, assert that sspx sacraments are not valid, including marriage and confessions;that folks should leave the sspx. 
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    An exorcist who does not understand "supplied jurisdiction" ? 
    Or does he think that there is no crisis in the Church ?
    I didn't know he was that out of touch with reality.

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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #9 on: July 07, 2019, 07:25:38 AM »
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  • Well, yeah!  I have heard him on at least two occasions. from his lips to my ear, assert that sspx sacraments are not valid, including marriage and confessions;that folks should leave the sspx.  I don't think it would be good for Fr. R to speak at an sspx conference.  I would suggest that Fr. R. give up speaking altogether.  For him to speak at the upcoming Angelus conference, would IMHO, simply add confusion to an already confused, not to mention, dull list of speakers.

    I think you are right. It would be confusing to have him speak at an SSPX conference.

    He doesn't believe that the SSPX has supplied jurisdiction, and he believes that the SSPX understanding of supplied jurisdiction is wrong. He apparently doesn't believe that a Modernist sect has taken over the Church.
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    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2019, 11:12:31 AM »
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    He doesn't believe that the SSPX has supplied jurisdiction, and he believes that the SSPX understanding of supplied jurisdiction is wrong. He apparently doesn't believe that a Modernist sect has taken over the Church.


     
    Exactly. Fr. R represents a traditional Catholic sect, which recognizes the V2 church, its pope and its (Modernist) hierarchy. So naturally, he would not accept the “supplied jurisdiction” argument of ABL and the sspx. What’s interesting to me is how will Fr. R’s tune be forced to change, as sspx grows closer to his position and a practical reconciliation with Rome. How might this change his rhetoric, or will it?


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    « Reply #11 on: July 07, 2019, 12:48:29 PM »
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    Exactly. Fr. R represents a traditional Catholic sect, which recognizes the V2 church, its pope and its (Modernist) hierarchy. So naturally, he would not accept the “supplied jurisdiction” argument of ABL and the sspx. What’s interesting to me is how will Fr. R’s tune be forced to change, as sspx grows closer to his position and a practical reconciliation with Rome. How might this change his rhetoric, or will it?
    Also, how will he and all the FSSP and all the other Indult groups react once the Prelature is in place and all Papal approved Trad groups will be forced to be under the Prelature umbrella with the SSPX as its head?

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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #12 on: July 07, 2019, 01:00:34 PM »
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  • He doesn't believe that the SSPX has supplied jurisdiction, and he believes that the SSPX understanding of supplied jurisdiction is wrong. He apparently doesn't believe that a Modernist sect has taken over the Church.

    But this is perfectly consistent with Bishop Fellay!  There will be no confision at all!  The audience will not be able to distinguish Fr. Ripperger from any other priest still in the SSPX!  He will be a perfect fit.
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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #13 on: July 07, 2019, 04:42:42 PM »
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    Exactly. Fr. R represents a traditional Catholic sect, which recognizes the V2 church, its pope and its (Modernist) hierarchy. So naturally, he would not accept the “supplied jurisdiction” argument of ABL and the sspx. What’s interesting to me is how will Fr. R’s tune be forced to change, as sspx grows closer to his position and a practical reconciliation with Rome. How might this change his rhetoric, or will it?

    Well, Fr. Ripperger has said in several of his videos that he hopes that the SSPX will reconcile with Rome, so I think he'd be fine with that. He wants the SSPX to have ordinary jurisdiction (or delegated jurisdiction?) which is apparently a HUGE deal for him.
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    Re: Spiritual Warfare by Fr Ripperger (traditional priest)
    « Reply #14 on: July 07, 2019, 04:44:31 PM »
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  • But this is perfectly consistent with Bishop Fellay!  There will be no confision at all!  The audience will not be able to distinguish Fr. Ripperger from any other priest still in the SSPX!  He will be a perfect fit.

    Ha! You're right!   ;D
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