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Re: Sounding the Alarm
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2023, 08:36:03 AM »
Your Excellencies, Rev. Fathers-

I do not know how closely your duties permit you to track recent events within the SSPX, but things have now progressed to a critical state:

You may be aware of rumors that the SSPX is to receive new bishops approved by Rome (perhaps even consecrated by conciliar prelates)?

And perhaps you are also aware that Bishop (?) Huonder recently consecrated (?) Holy oils for the SSPX at Zaitzkofen.

It seems to me that these two items are not disconnected, and the latter may suggest the former is no mere rumor:

If the faithful (and clergy) will tolerate holy oils consecrated (?) by a conciliar bishop, perhaps they’ll also tolerate conciliar bishops consecrating more bishops for the SSPX.

Hardly any of the faithful are complaining, and this is surely being communicated to Rome, that they believe it is safe to proceed to consecrating bishops.

But now, unbelievably, something has happened which causes me to conclude in the near certainty of it:

The SSPX has just released a movie trailer promoting Bishop (?) Huonder:

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There is little doubt in my mind that they are preparing the terrain for the acceptance of new bishops (approved by Rome, and consecrated in what rite, and by whom?).

A final question: Since when does Rome approve bishops for communities not in communion with Rome? If modernist Rome is consecrating/approving bishops for the SSPX, then perhaps we need to revisit the Argentinian recognition of the SSPX in that country (ie., Has Rome already approved the SSPX years ago?).

These developments have caused me to wonder if we were wrong to think Rome was gradually, incrementally walking the SSPX toward regularization. Perhaps Rome is instead gradually REVEALING a regularization which occurred back in 2015 in Argentina (2015 being the same year in which the SSPX received jurisdiction for confessions, and which according to Huonder, Francis appointed him to make contact with the Society to help reintegrate them into the conciliar church)?

Semper Idem,
Sean Johnson


In this thread, Mr. G links to a Non Possumus announcement (unverified) that Fr. Pagliarani says the SSPX will be getting bishops:

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-will-consecrate-three-bishops-in-june-of-this-year/msg880085/?topicseen#msg880085

Things seem to be moving quickly now, if true.  Supposing it is, the 800lb gorilla in the room is what said approved consecrations imply about the SSPX’s canonical status.

Re: Sounding the Alarm
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2023, 08:48:31 AM »
then perhaps we need to revisit the Argentinian recognition of the SSPX in that country (ie., Has Rome already approved the SSPX years ago?).



The Remnant Newspaper - SSPX Officially Recognized in Archdiocese of Buenos Aires

"As of this moment, therefore, any member of the Christian faithful in the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires is free to remain a member of, or to join anew, the Society’s arm in that Archdiocese as a Catholic in good standing. In Buenos Aires the “schism” of the Society has been exposed as the sham it always was. Nothing but the formality of a regularizing decree was needed to demonstrate the Society’s “full communion” in Buenos Aires, and nothing more is needed throughout the Church universal."


Re: Sounding the Alarm
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2023, 09:11:38 AM »
I seem to recall Fr. Pfluger having once said something like, “Don’t be surprised if one day you wake up, and you are in Rome,” but I can’t recall or find a source.

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Re: Sounding the Alarm
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2023, 09:32:08 AM »
At one of the last townhalls Fr Rostand made in Post Falls he stated that the plan was to assimilate with Rome and THEN convert it from the inside.  The recording is here



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Re: Sounding the Alarm
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2023, 09:37:47 AM »
There was quite a contingent of mistaken and naive SSPX priests in the bosom of the SSPX as early as 2000.

These priests believed and taught: "the Tridentine Mass, as we knew and loved it, is over. The only future is a Hybrid Mass, as there are just too many Catholics born and raised on the Novus Ordo".

I first heard this from Fr. Doran in the early 2000s, and it shocked me a bit.

Where is Fr. Doran today? Part of the Conciliar Church. Specifically, in the Maronite Rite -- probably the most liberal of the Eastern Rites.

There was/is a whole contingent that believes that if we could just get "inside" Modernist Rome, we could convert them from the "inside". As if we're not part of the Church now. As if a small dissident group could have any effect.