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Offline Matthew

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Someone starting rumors, starting trouble about Fr. Zendejas
« on: October 31, 2014, 11:42:08 AM »
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  • Apparently they have the ability to send out messages on behalf of "InThisSign".

    I smell an amateur exorcist. I take that back -- I'd BET MONEY it's Pablo.

    I think this person is totally off-the-wall. For those who know Pablo, you won't be shocked at all. The man is a nutcase. That's why I banned him from CathInfo umpteen months ago.

    I actually hesitate to post this drivel. But since it's already been sent to the entire InThisSign e-mail list, I might as well address it here so people can discuss it.

    See why I was forced to limit this man's "soapbox" and reach? He is a live wire. Look at how hysterical he is. He is more hysterical than any woman could be.

    I like how he spells "pseudo" -- he spells it "sudo" which is a common command in Linux to execute a command as the Administrator account.

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    Addition to Our Lady of Sorrows, New Hampshire Resistance November 2014 issue #1

    Please contact ourladyofsorrows7.nh@gmail.com to join the mailing list for the newsletter.

    Altar Emergency Addendum: Our Lady of Sorrows, New Hampshire Resistance November 2014 issue #1a Our Lady told the Children in Fatima 1917 the church would be reduced to a remnant. Well here we are. I don’t really know how to say this other then, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU PRAY FOR YOU JUST MAY GET IT! We all have be praying for more priest to join the resistance, one of the priest was Fr. Zendejas. This past Sunday Fr. Zendejas called Fr Pfeiffer and told he would be taking over his CT. and New Jersey Chapels! In The attached recordings you will hear Fr. Zendejas speak as if he had spoken with Fr. Pfeiffer and he was part of the resistance, completely false! He did not have the permission of Fr. Pfeiffer to do this! Attached is Sunday’s mass and conference of Fr. Zendejas in New Jersey. This sounds like to me, the sudo-SSPX he talks a lot and he really is saying nothing……just like the Felleyer’s…..what do you all think? Let me know……………..watch for wolfs dear flock in sheep's clothing!!! *Why won’t he talk about why he left? *Why won’t he speak out about the sudo-SSPX? *Why is he in the two most organized places that *Fr. Pfeiffer has built up? *Where is the money going? *Not to Our Lady of Mount Carmel…..WHY?????? Fr. Zendejas would be under Bishop Williamson? Do we really need to be sending our US dollars to build the resistance in Europe? What is really going on here!? This is a complete betrayal! We are at war here my dear friend! What team are you on? The side of Christ the King? Fighting alongside Fr.’s Pfeiffer, Hewko, Voigt, etc.? Or with men that would infiltrate and capitalize an established resistance chapel that was monetarily doing well? Why would a Spanish speaking priest go to a place so established when there are millions of POOR Spanish speaking people begging for a priest? Why? Why? Why? We cannot judge this man, but our Lord told us you will know them by their fruits, what it is know happening in the North East is rotten! Listen to these and decide for yourselves, let me know what you think, God Bless you all. Keep the faith,

    Viva Christo Rey! *

    Santa María de Guadalupe Esperanza nuestra, salva nuestra patria y conserva nuestra Fe!
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    Someone starting rumors, starting trouble about Fr. Zendejas
    « Reply #1 on: October 31, 2014, 12:06:03 PM »
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    Matthew, may I suggest holding off any diss of that commentary til the good Fathers of SSPX-MC speak to the issue. PM me if you want more info.


    Please read this very carefully:

    I am not saying that none of this is true. What I AM saying is that Pablo's delivery is far from calm and factual. He is too hysterical to be an official spokesman for the Resistance, or even the Fr. Pfeiffer branch of the Resistance. Also, it's quite embarrassing for the Resistance that this is all happening publicly. It's very confusing for the average Catholic.

    See my related thread:
    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Offline-Priests-A-fundamental-problem-in-SSPX-and-Resistance

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    commentary til the good Fathers of SSPX-MC speak to the issue.


    Will they be posting on CathInfo soon? I would suggest it.
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    Someone starting rumors, starting trouble about Fr. Zendejas
    « Reply #2 on: October 31, 2014, 01:36:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    Okay guys, this was NOT pablo posting this at all. I know who was the one who posted it, and I understand that Fr. Pfeiffer asked that this be posted. So... think what you want. Read the content of the message, and decide for yourself.


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    In the first email sent out a woman was identified by name as the author.


    I don't know who actually performed the cut-paste and hit SEND, but I can guarantee you those words are from Pablo's pen.

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    Viva Christo Rey! *

    Santa María de Guadalupe Esperanza nuestra, salva nuestra patria y conserva nuestra Fe!


    Note the superfluous "asterisk" put in there at the end for no particular purpose. That's Pablo's trademark. He posted here for many months; I have a good memory.
    And that whole line in Spanish.

    It's Pablo all right.
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    Someone starting rumors, starting trouble about Fr. Zendejas
    « Reply #3 on: October 31, 2014, 01:56:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    Okay so Pablo added the Spanish part, but the one who wrote this was NOT Pablo!


    Fair enough.

    I'm just pointing out Pablo's fingerprints. That's all I'm certain about.

    P.S. Why the heck did she feel the need to put Pablo's seal on it? Wasn't that kind of unnecessary at best, and confusing/deceptive at worst? I'm not going to apologize for being confused when someone tells me, "Turn right, then go straight, then turn right-left then go back-straight and then go left-up for a while and you can't miss it!"

    Nor am I going to apologize for being wet after someone dumps a bucket of water on me...

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    Someone starting rumors, starting trouble about Fr. Zendejas
    « Reply #4 on: October 31, 2014, 02:22:06 PM »
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  • As to the issue of the "rumor". Is this really a big deal?

    I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but it sounds like the folks in CT / NJ (where Fr Zendejas was previously stationed) have arranged with him to have weekly Mass. Fr. Pfeiffer can't offer that to them as he prefers to operate in more of a missionary style and bring less frequent sacraments to more groups of people.

    Presuming the good folks in CT / NJ show their appreciation for all Fr. Pfeiffer has done and continues to do by sending some of their financial resources back his direction, it sounds like win-win-win to me.

    What am I missing?
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    « Reply #5 on: October 31, 2014, 02:37:48 PM »
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    On another note, one member of this forum posted that Father asked that he not be recorded.  I would question why they didn't honor his request.


    SPEAKING of that video,

    A few days ago someone pointed out to me a video on Pablo's youtube channel which contained 45 seconds of Fr. Zendejas at one of the East Coast chapels in question. It was the tail end of a sermon -- he didn't say anything interesting in particular.

    But the description of the video had something EXACTLY along the lines of the message sent out by InThisSign. That is to say, extremely upset, "emergency", "Fr. Zendejas trying to steal souls away", etc.

    On Pablo's youtube channel.

    So, again, you'll have to forgive me for thinking Pablo was behind the message I received today. It's essentially the same message! It even has the same tone.

    I was very confused when I got it, and in fact I was rather upset at the time about such an accusation against Fr. Zendejas.
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    « Reply #6 on: October 31, 2014, 03:11:34 PM »
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  • I contacted Fr. Hewko about Fr. Zendejas offering Mass in the North East and he replied "Ya, that's great news.  I hope he can help at the Seminary once in a while."  

    He was very poitive about Fr. Zendejas offering the Holy Sacrifice there.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 31, 2014, 04:00:37 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    I think people think he's trying to infiltrate the resistance.


    I'd remind them that this is the priest who encouraged his congregation to keep apprised of things via the internet while the official SSPX line is to stay away. He also ended a sermon with something along the lines of 'pray for your SSPX superiors, for they know not what they do'.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    « Reply #8 on: October 31, 2014, 04:42:17 PM »
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  • I, for one, don't consider it a bad thing that Fr. Zendejas doesn't want to BASH the SSPX or Bishop Fellay.

    He wants to get on with the business of saving souls. Good for him!
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    « Reply #9 on: October 31, 2014, 05:15:27 PM »
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  • There will be no unfounded rumors about Fr. Zendejas posted here on CathInfo.

    If you get some kind of proof, then we'll talk.

    I don't believe Fr. Zendejas is a mole or operative for Fr. Wegner (who is the new District Superior of the US District)
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    « Reply #10 on: October 31, 2014, 05:50:22 PM »
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  •  :dancing-banana:
    Maybe it's because Fr. Zendejas is a REAL Mexican with true Cristeros blood in his veins, and someone else is not.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    « Reply #11 on: October 31, 2014, 07:01:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    There will be no unfounded rumors about Fr. Zendejas posted here on CathInfo.

    If you get some kind of proof, then we'll talk.

    I don't believe Fr. Zendejas is a mole or operative for Fr. Wegner (who is the new District Superior of the US District)



    Agreed, we certainly shouldn't jump to such a conclusion without proof. To do so is not Christian charity. Let's give him a chance!

    I know many of us would be thrilled to have a true priest make such a time commitment.

    Perhaps he doesn't do well flying. Some people have a real fear/aversion to it, to the point that it literally makes them physically ill.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 31, 2014, 09:46:45 PM »
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    On another note, one member of this forum posted that Father asked that he not be recorded.  I would question why they didn't honor his request.


    SPEAKING of that video,

    A few days ago someone pointed out to me a video on Pablo's youtube channel which contained 45 seconds of Fr. Zendejas at one of the East Coast chapels in question. It was the tail end of a sermon -- he didn't say anything interesting in particular.

    But the description of the video had something EXACTLY along the lines of the message sent out by InThisSign. That is to say, extremely upset, "emergency", "Fr. Zendejas trying to steal souls away", etc.

    On Pablo's youtube channel.

    So, again, you'll have to forgive me for thinking Pablo was behind the message I received today. It's essentially the same message! It even has the same tone.

    I was very confused when I got it, and in fact I was rather upset at the time about such an accusation against Fr. Zendejas.


    What he said was that God wants those who have been "effiminated" to be removed from the Society.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 01, 2014, 02:53:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ekim
    In the previous thread Stella said that she was at Fr's Mass.  According to her report, he said that he was not expelled from the SSPX but requested to be dismissed and then left.  So there ya have it.  Now people want to label him a "Mole"?  Shame on them!

    I find this entire thing bothersome. Any group of Traditional Catholics should be grateful to have such a priest at their disposal.  This should be of #1 importance.  Instead, someone is trying to turn this into a turf war...really?...REALLY??

    How are other priests who may be on the fence about leaving the SSPX going to think about all this?  Will they be unappreciated?  Called a “Mole”?  Not “Resistance” enough?  CRAZY!  CRAZY! CRAZY!  This needs to be nipped in the bud!

    I would think Fr. Pfeiffer would be ecstatic that these souls now have access to the fullness of the Catholic Faith on a regular basis, something he could not provide.  


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    « Reply #14 on: November 01, 2014, 04:21:58 AM »
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  • This Resistance thing is starting to get a little unhinged, from turf wars to +Williamson apparition cliffhanger's,  it seems like it's all starting to get unraveled.  I'm feeling that after Fr. Pfeiffer's sermons inthe North East, it's going to get worse.

     

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