Author Topic: Vat II, Lefebvre, Jews Books Purged at SSPX Chapels? (Read 7412 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #30 on:** November 28, 2012, 10:30:30 PM »

Quote from: Skunkwurxsspx

Dear Friends,

I have come across this wonderful link for a downloadable pdf version of ABL's I Accuse the Council, in effect helping me to bypass the "(still) out of print" problem over at Angelus Press. Hope this helps. God bless!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4104690/i-Accuse-the-Council

This post is a link:

Quote from: VeraeFidei

As I mentioned in its own thread a few weeks back, this book is available brand-new and shrink-wrapped from the Benedictines of Our Lady of Guadalupe Monastery. I believe I purchased it for $9 just recently.

I'm not sure where VeraeFidei "mentioned" this, if not this present thread, but
here is his post in the Library thread where we're not supposed to discuss anything.

What is the info for ordering at the Monastery?

Did they get their own printing done?
Do they have a stockpile of the books in storage?
Did they obtain some kind of permission to reprint from Angelus Press?

I'd like to know what's going on!

Okay, here it is:

Quote from: VeraeFidei

I have noticed several posters on CathInfo lament the recent lack of availability of Archbishop Lefevre's I Accuse the Council. I want to let all of you know that I just purchased a copy from the Benedictines of Silver City, NM for $9.50! I was on the phone with them and just happened to ask if they had it, as it is not in their online catalog, and the Brother double-checked for me and said they did. I just received it in the mail today.

So, if you are looking for this book, there is no need to pay an arm and a leg on Half.com, etc.!

bowler · « **Reply #31 on:** November 29, 2012, 07:31:03 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

The problem is that there are way too many people who want to be liberal while claiming to be traditional. It's very sad. Some of it is ignorance and inertia, but unfortunately, there are a lot of people who really do want to be liberal. They want to have their cake and eat it too - they want to take advantage of the "order" that their community provides but they don't want to be bound by the requirements of that order.

If a non-gagged priest would come in like Fr. Pfeiffer, the people would change within a month. The problem is not the people, it is the SSPX priests, they have not preached militancy, nor how to apply Catholicism to todays world, for at least 10 years. The Novus Ordo has been doing the same since the 1960's and they have a sermon every day.

Mea Culpa · « **Reply #32 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:04:10 AM »

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Quote from: Telesphorus
The problem is that there are way too many people who want to be liberal while claiming to be traditional. It's very sad. Some of it is ignorance and inertia, but unfortunately, there are a lot of people who really do want to be liberal. They want to have their cake and eat it too - they want to take advantage of the "order" that their community provides but they don't want to be bound by the requirements of that order.

If a non-gagged priest would come in like Fr. Pfeiffer, the people would change within a month. The problem is not the people, it is the SSPX priests, they have not preached militancy, nor how to apply Catholicism to todays world, for at least 10 years. The Novus Ordo has been doing the same since the 1960's and they have a sermon every day.

Bowler, have you tried contacting Fr. Pfeiffer or any other priests and invite them to your area?
I understand they travel all over the place to where souls are in need.

bowler · « **Reply #33 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:49:45 AM »

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Quote from: Telesphorus
The problem is that there are way too many people who want to be liberal while claiming to be traditional. It's very sad. Some of it is ignorance and inertia, but unfortunately, there are a lot of people who really do want to be liberal. They want to have their cake and eat it too - they want to take advantage of the "order" that their community provides but they don't want to be bound by the requirements of that order.

If a non-gagged priest would come in like Fr. Pfeiffer, the people would change within a month. The problem is not the people, it is the SSPX priests, they have not preached militancy, nor how to apply Catholicism to todays world, for at least 10 years. The Novus Ordo has been doing the same since the 1960's and they have a sermon every day.

Bowler, have you tried contacting Fr. Pfeiffer or any other priests and invite them to your area?
I understand they travel all over the place to where souls are in need.

The people who know what's going on are already taken care of, it is the masses of SSPXers that go to their chapels and hear nothing for the last 10 years or so that are the problem. They can only be taught the faith by their pastors. Those people can't be reached any other way. It is the "oridinary form" of aquiring knowledge about the crisis in the Church.

wsxyz · « **Reply #34 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:48:20 AM »

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... try finding the book *I Accuse the Council*- even on the internet supplies are diminishing rapidly. I have heard that many of these titles are no longer available from Angelus Press, that they have been "out of print"...

If the SSPX were trying to suppress this book, then why is the entire book available for free on the French website: http://www.laportelatine.org/bibliotheque/oeuvres_mgr_lefebvre/oeuvres_mgr_lefebvre.php

And why is the SSPX German language publisher still selling the book? http://shop.sarto-verlag.de/product_info.php?info=p1115_Erzbischof-Marcel-Lefebvre--Ich-klage-das-Konzil-an-.html

Maybe it really is just "temporarily out of print".

ultrarigorist · « **Reply #35 on:** November 29, 2012, 10:15:26 AM »

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Maybe it really is just "temporarily out of print".

Seriously?
For 6 months?

wsxyz · « **Reply #36 on:** November 29, 2012, 11:14:18 AM »

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Maybe it really is just "temporarily out of print".

Seriously?
For 6 months?

Maybe they're trying to hide it from English speaking people, but they want French and Germans to read it?

ancien regime · « **Reply #37 on:** November 29, 2012, 11:46:05 AM »

I don't know about the German district--maybe there is no interest.

However, the French district is anything but solidly behind the ralliement. From what I have heard, the District Superior so far does not really support any rapproachment with Rome. Keeping such books available would support this distaste.

Something that is not receiving much publicity is that Bishop Tissier de Mallerais will be heading up the 5th Annual Marian Colloquium in Lyon, France on Saturday, Dec. 1st. He will be speaking on the missionary spirit of Archbishop Lefebvre.

I hope one of the French resistance web sites will post either a recording of his talk or a transcript.

If they do, I'll try to at least provide a summary so we can try to ascertain Bishop Tissier's position at this time. I have heard from several people in France that Bishop Tissier is still not in favor of the current program coming out of Menzingen. To me, it looks like he wants to stay in so as to try to salvage the Society . . . after all, he has been with it from the beginning. He was one of Archbishop Lefebvre's first seminarians in 1969.

By the way, today is the 109th anniversary of Archbishop Lefebvre's birth (Nov. 29, 1903).

Telesphorus · « **Reply #38 on:** December 03, 2012, 05:37:00 AM »

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By the way, today is the 109th anniversary of Archbishop Lefebvre's birth (Nov. 29, 1903).

I grew up two houses down from a woman born in 1903. She died at 102.

Well I remember the local diocesan paper reporting on the consecrations.

I wanted to go to Latin mass back then: I didn't know St. Gertrude the Great wasnt' SSPX though - I just looked at the ad in the paper. When you're a boy you don't get to decide such things.

Aleah · « **Reply #39 on:** December 05, 2012, 07:43:06 PM »

Quote from: bowler

I heard a comment that the Vatican II books had been removed from a certain priory bookstore/library. I had it checked out by a reliable and precise friend, and he confirmed to me that ALL the books against Vatican II, all the books about and by Archbishop Lefebvre, and all the books about organized naturalism, ALL are GONE.

Is this happening elsewhere in the USA/ World?

Our book store carries books against Vatican II, books about Archbishop Lefebvre, and even books written by Cekada.

I'm wondering when the bookstore managers will be told to remove those books....

Incredulous · « **Reply #40 on:** December 05, 2012, 09:27:59 PM »

Quote from: Aleah

Quote from: bowler
I heard a comment that the Vatican II books had been removed from a certain priory bookstore/library. I had it checked out by a reliable and precise friend, and he confirmed to me that ALL the books against Vatican II, all the books about and by Archbishop Lefebvre, and all the books about organized naturalism, ALL are GONE.

Is this happening elsewhere in the USA/ World?

Our book store carries books against Vatican II, books about Archbishop Lefebvre, and even books written by Cekada.

I'm wondering when the bookstore managers will be told to remove those books....

Aleah,

It is possible to estimate when the trad book purge will occur in your chapel.

Question:
Approximately how many pictures of Pope Benedict XVI are in your bookstore now?

Mr. Stephen Heiner advised us that nowadays, in St. Mary's bookstore, images of Pope XVI out-number the images of +ABL.
It never used to be that way, until Menzingen contracted "New Springtime" fever.

Therefore, as a rule of thumb, a bookstore purge is imminent when the ratio of B16 to +ABL pictures is equal to or exceeds 2 to 1.

I hope this helps?

bowler · « **Reply #41 on:** December 06, 2012, 10:25:17 AM »

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Mr. Stephen Heiner advised us that nowadays, in St. Mary's bookstore, images of Pope XVI out-number the images of +ABL.

Amazing.

Aleah · « **Reply #42 on:** December 08, 2012, 08:01:24 AM »

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Quote from: Aleah
Quote from: bowler
I heard a comment that the Vatican II books had been removed from a certain priory bookstore/library. I had it checked out by a reliable and precise friend, and he confirmed to me that ALL the books against Vatican II, all the books about and by Archbishop Lefebvre, and all the books about organized naturalism, ALL are GONE.

Is this happening elsewhere in the USA/ World?

Our book store carries books against Vatican II, books about Archbishop Lefebvre, and even books written by Cekada.

I'm wondering when the bookstore managers will be told to remove those books....

Aleah,

It is possible to estimate when the trad book purge will occur in your chapel.

Question:
Approximately how many pictures of Pope Benedict XVI are in your bookstore now?

Mr. Stephen Heiner advised us that nowadays, in St. Mary's bookstore, images of Pope XVI out-number the images of +ABL.
It never used to be that way, until Menzingen contracted "New Springtime" fever.

Therefore, as a rule of thumb, a bookstore purge is imminent when the ratio of B16 to +ABL pictures is equal to or exceeds 2 to 1.

I hope this helps?

Let's see.... last time I checked- there were was one picture of Pope Benedict XVI in the entrance of the chapel and there were zero pictures of him in the bookstore.

I am just wondering how all the SSPX chapels handle their bookstore orders. Do the requests have to be approved by the parish priest or???

Domitilla · « **Reply #43 on:** December 08, 2012, 01:16:24 PM »

The SSPX pastor has complete control over what is, or is not, sold in his parish bookstore.