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Offline Lighthouse

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« Reply #60 on: July 11, 2016, 03:37:45 PM »
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  • While you two have at each other, I might get a little practical here by pointing out that a solution for this type of thing was perfected in the days of the Plantagenet King Edward II-solved the problem immediately and completely.

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    « Reply #61 on: July 11, 2016, 03:40:06 PM »
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  • Alexandrina,

    I'm not going to derail this thread any further. I removed our little "argument" lest the thread get derailed.

    If you want to continue talking about SSPX vs. Sedevacantism, I got a nice thread started here:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/The-SSPX-Resistance-is-superior-to-sedevacantism
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    « Reply #62 on: July 11, 2016, 05:41:44 PM »
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  • I'm not claiming to get direct communications from above, but I think this suggestion for a Rosary Crusade is a better idea than the one proposed by the SSPX.  

    Asking for the Pope to consecrate Fatima is never going to get anywhere with Popes that don't believe anything beyond compromising with the "current circuмstances" as they see them.  

    Asking specifically for the BVM to bind a notorious and horrific demon by name (Asmodeus) is the shortest most direct route to making any kind of positive change.  The landscape has to be altered in a dynamic way that the Pope or Popes will see inevitably a lifting of the demonic weight that has been put on the world. That might give them some faith and courage.  

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=41325&min=0&num=3

    If the BVM were to respond and fulfill our request and bind the demon, it would be really an amazing thing to see when the "zeal" for something so unnatural is cut to a mere fraction of what it is today.  Reality will have room to breathe in the minds of people and the natural reaction will reassert itself.  

    Maybe someone knows someone in Post Falls and the other SSPX enclaves and the people can actually do the Rosary Crusade and see if their boys troubled by this demon will straighten up.    

    Start August 15th and take it through September the month of the Angels.  

    No counting rosaries to hand them to an organization, no bouquet, just the cries of the poor, banished children of Eve.  

    I'm amazed at the lack of response I've gotten (not even a polite refusal) from the various traditionalist "luminaries" I've sent the suggestion to.  

    Fear?  If so, I'd say it's definitely the right thing to do.  

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    « Reply #63 on: July 11, 2016, 06:01:25 PM »
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  • Maybe the Blessed Mother doesn't want to bind the demons, maybe they are being unleashed throughout the world as a punishment for mankind's sins. Didn't Saint Paul say that God let the demons pervert sinful men to sodomy because of their sins of idolatry? Maybe that is why God is letting these horrible demons pervert us. Didn't Our Lady warn us in her apparitions at Fatima to do penance and very few of us or our ancestors did any worthy penance.
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    « Reply #64 on: July 11, 2016, 06:34:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: pendulum
    It is still being withheld from the parents of the involved children. Of the few parents who have been told by other parents that their child is involved, there is mostly denial. The affected children of sodomy, molestation, group masturbation are not receiving any help or counselling. These sins are spreading in the homes to the younger siblings. The parents of most all the school children of all grades have no idea of the widespread affect that has spread over the last two years. At the most recent parent meeting, parents were told by father this was "normal" pubescent behavior, "imprudent" but "not really mortal sin".

    Pray for the people of post falls. We just want to protect the children.


    This is completely mind-boggling to me!

    Edit: I just had to re-read what pendulum wrote...when you say "parents were told by father" did you mean FATHER VASSAL or a FATHER of a child accused of molesting a fellow student??

    If there was a PRIEST at the parents meeting who said that boy-on-boy mutual masturbation is "normal" and "not really mortal sin" then HE needs to be run out of the place on a rail - POST HASTE!
     
    If there were parents at the parents meeting who said that boy-on-boy mutual masturbation is "normal" and "not really mortal sin" then THEY need to be run out of the place on a rail along WITH the priests!

    It's actually ILLEGAL. It called sɛҳuąƖ abuse. These things happen in public schools too, on campus, and those kids get arrested and end up on the local evening news around here.

    Whoever this group of parents is, if they really want to stop this train of perversion, they need to make good on their threat to issue a public statement and/or lawsuit and be specific.


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    « Reply #65 on: July 11, 2016, 07:56:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Gerard from FE
    ....
    Asking specifically for the BVM to bind a notorious and horrific demon by name (Asmodeus) is the shortest most direct route to making any kind of positive change.  The landscape has to be altered in a dynamic way that the Pope or Popes will see inevitably a lifting of the demonic weight that has been put on the world.  
    ......
     


    Don't worry....Almighty God is definitely going to "alter the landscape in a dynamic way" in the coming Chastisement predicted by Our Lady of Fatima. He just isn't quite ready yet......

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    « Reply #66 on: July 11, 2016, 08:03:56 PM »
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    Quote from: Gerard from FE
    ....
    Asking specifically for the BVM to bind a notorious and horrific demon by name (Asmodeus) is the shortest most direct route to making any kind of positive change.  The landscape has to be altered in a dynamic way that the Pope or Popes will see inevitably a lifting of the demonic weight that has been put on the world.  
    ......
     


    Don't worry....Almighty God is definitely going to "alter the landscape in a dynamic way" in the coming Chastisement predicted by Our Lady of Fatima. He just isn't quite ready yet......


    True and that does not relieve us of our duties to Catholic Action.

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    « Reply #67 on: July 11, 2016, 08:38:29 PM »
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  • "Different... in no way related..."???!!!

    As if THREE sɛҳuąƖ scandals at the SAME parish in a short period of time are mere unrelated coincidences?

    As if the identical PATTERN of response to the THREE sɛҳuąƖ scandals—ignoring warnings of children, teachers and parents; lying to parents; threatening the messengers—is mere coincidence and appropriate?

    As if Catholic morality teaches that the public safety of children is trumped by fear of the sin of detraction (telling the truth)?

    Completely deceitful rubbish on your part.

    We have been to your rodeo before, Catholic444, and you do not fool us. The droppings you leave, your vague insinuations, are a type of gaslighting. To be clear, the public danger to children and the notoriety of these scandals eliminates the issue of "detraction."


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    « Reply #68 on: July 11, 2016, 08:47:11 PM »
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  • I don't think it is detraction to publicize this scandal. I think the public good and the safety of children demands that it be made public.
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    « Reply #69 on: July 11, 2016, 09:05:27 PM »
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  • Very well, 444, let's hear from you.  What exactly is that 'exaggeration,' which you accuse certain forum members of making?  I am in no way meaning to be confrontational or belligerent.  I just want to hear your side of it, since you say you were there "at the meeting mentioned."  What exactly was exaggerated about a statement Fr. Vassal made?  What things have been written on this forum which are damaging to the boys?  I think major damage was done to these boys long before the topic ever came up on Cathinfo.  It would seem to me that the situation at ICA could not have gotten much worse, and that the prior, along with a number of teachers and parents, perhaps, may have failed to conduct proper oversight from several years past.  
    Since you have deigned to post on Cathinfo, you should probably explain in greater detail what you mean in subsequent posts.

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    « Reply #70 on: July 11, 2016, 09:10:19 PM »
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  • If I can prevent another child from being raped I would be willing to remain in Purgatory until the end of time for the sin of detraction.  Better for me to detract the guilty than for an innocent child to lose their purity and maybe their faith.  And charity to the perpetrators demand that we take any and all steps to prevent them from continuing to commit this grievous sin.


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    « Reply #71 on: July 11, 2016, 09:38:10 PM »
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  • You can't treat a  holy Catholic bishop like trash and not pay a spiritual price....God is allowing the SSPX to be punished...It's Superior General hasn't even apologized yet...so how can the healing begin? Meanwhile Zion cheering Americanists at St. Michael the Archangel on LI are bringing in lying lawyers and walking around with tape recorders....These people haven't been appeased. They have no concept of Catholic Social Doctrine, they're as ignorant as the day is long..I know a priest in the local NO who says the Latin Mass and is more militant than the avg. SSPX priest...I think I know why: Because Bishop Jeugis is more likely to back him up than Bp. Fellay or the American District Sup.... :reporter:

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    « Reply #72 on: July 11, 2016, 10:23:56 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    Maybe the Blessed Mother doesn't want to bind the demons, maybe they are being unleashed throughout the world as a punishment for mankind's sins. Didn't Saint Paul say that God let the demons pervert sinful men to sodomy because of their sins of idolatry? Maybe that is why God is letting these horrible demons pervert us. Didn't Our Lady warn us in her apparitions at Fatima to do penance and very few of us or our ancestors did any worthy penance.



    We have nothing to lose by asking.  As far as I know, it has never even been tried on a large scale.  There have been zillions of prayers for the graces to be given the Pope to consecrate Russia with the bishops.  They are afraid to do that.  The more perverse the world gets, the more afraid they become.  And they willfully refuse to fulfill the request.

    If we ask her to remove the demonic, the humanity of the population will have a chance to resurface and angels and saints can move in. We can take away what is causing the Popes to be so fearful or at least diminish it to the point where even they in their weakness will dare to try something.  We can get a consecration finally.  

    She won't interfere with the Pope's free will.  Conversely she has no such restrictions when it comes to bouncing a demon off the proverbial walls a few times and forcing them to stop.  

    Our Lady might give us 80% of a victory and then wait for the consecration as the finishing touch.  


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    « Reply #73 on: July 11, 2016, 10:27:45 PM »
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    We have nothing to lose by asking.

    If you organize it and let us know the details I will try to pray with you. This SSPX sodomy scandal has really phazed me.
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    « Reply #74 on: July 11, 2016, 10:31:10 PM »
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    Gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of mental abuse in which a victim is manipulated into doubting their own memory, perception, and sanity. Instances may range from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.

    The term owes its origin to the 1938 play Gas Light and its film adaptations. The term has been used in clinical and research literature.


    I would add that "catholic444" is also engaged in psy-ops and attempted manipulation  (steering) of the forum's discussion on this topic.

    When people like this can't deny something outright, they do their best to help their cause (limit the damage) in other ways: obfuscation, shoot the messenger, cast doubt, and gaslight as many people as you can.

    Note that this person hasn't been a member of CathInfo for long. He joined just to do damage control.
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