Author Topic: Sodomy Scandal in Post Falls, ID - SSPX Immaculate Conception Academy (Read 187311 times)

hollingsworth · « **Reply #45 on:** July 11, 2016, 10:12:25 AM »

Yesterday, a lady from Post Falls, who shares time between SSPX Masses there and Masses at our independent chapel, said something that resonated with us. She said that many of the faithful at ICC still do not know about the scandals there. They are uninformed, apparently, even as I write. She had just begun to undertake to conduct an information campaign in order to get the message out. She said that we'd be surprised to learn how many of the faithful, even those close to ground zero, still know little or nothing about it.
We all know how Fellay & Co. operate, usually in secrecy, often behind closed doors, endeavoring always to keep any news, damaging to the Society, from our ears.
I would suggest this: A number of you, probably, have acquaintances, i.e. relatives, friends, who attend ICC. Contact them by phone, letter or email. Tell them everything that you know about the situation. Shout it from the housetops.
Additionally, those of you active on other forums, get the story out. Do not give sspx hierarchy the satisfaction of being able to keep yet another scandal under wraps and undealt with.
I would also suggest that some of you write personally to Michael Matt of the Remnant, and John Vennari of Catholic Family News, telling them what you know in detail.
Commenting on sermons, talks and debate forums posted on Youtube is another means of getting information out. Most Youtube videos provide a comment format which allows the viewer to share remarks and opinions.
Let's blanket cyber space and the airways with the news. Let none of this evil be hidden any longer.

JPM · « **Reply #46 on:** July 11, 2016, 10:26:07 AM »

Quote from: pendulum

It is very true. It is very sad and discouraging. Unfortunately it is most probably worse than what is posted here. It is still being withheld from the parents of the involved children. Of the few parents who have been told by other parents that their child is involved , there is mostly denial. The affected children of sodomy, molestation, group masturbation are not receiving any help or counselling. These sins are spreading in the homes to the younger siblings. The parents of most all the school children of all grades have no idea of the widespread affect that has spread over the last two years. At the most recent parent meeting, parents were told by father this was "normal" pubescent behavior, "imprudent" but "not really mortal sin".
Pray for the people of post falls. We just want to protect the children.

I don't get it. Do the parents know or do they not know? And when can we expect the communique from the parents who have first hand knowledge of what allegedly occurred?

Mark 79 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 11, 2016, 11:05:55 AM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

Yesterday, a lady from Post Falls, who shares time between SSPX Masses there and Masses at our independent chapel, said something that resonated with us. She said that many of the faithful at ICC still do not know about the scandals there. They are uninformed, apparently, even as I write. She had just begun to undertake to conduct an information campaign in order to get the message out. She said that we'd be surprised to learn how many of the faithful, even those close to ground zero, still know little or nothing about it.
We all know how Fellay & Co. operate, usually in secrecy, often behind closed doors, endeavoring always to keep any news, damaging to the Society, from our ears.
I would suggest this: A number of you, probably, have acquaintances, i.e. relatives, friends, who attend ICC. Contact them by phone, letter or email. Tell them everything that you know about the situation. Shout it from the housetops.
Additionally, those of you active on other forums, get the story out. Do not give sspx hierarchy the satisfaction of being able to keep yet another scandal under wraps and undealt with.
I would also suggest that some of you write personally to Michael Matt of the Remnant, and John Vennari of Catholic Family News, telling them what you know in detail.
Commenting on sermons, talks and debate forums posted on Youtube is another means of getting information out. Most Youtube videos provide a comment format which allows the viewer to share remarks and opinions.
Let's blanket cyber space and the airways with the news. Let none of this evil be hidden any longer.

Even though Sloniker's pederasty was reported in the lay press, a search shows no mention by either the Remnant or CFNews. Unsurprisingly the SPLC has publicized the Sloniker scandal: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/10/30/former-seminarian-anti-semitic-church-charged-sɛҳuąƖ-abuse-boys

Alexandria · « **Reply #48 on:** July 11, 2016, 11:47:17 AM »

Matto, I agree with you.

We expected more from traditional chapels. In fact, that's why 99% of the people are at ICC - to get away from the novus ordo filth.

And what do they find after they root themselves up and leave behind lucrative jobs so they can move to Post Falls and have to go on food stamps because they can't find good paying jobs?

Sodomites destroying their children.

Immaculate Conception Church and Academy ought to be demolished, the buildings razed and the property sold off.

Matthew, thank you for having the integrity to post this awful news.

Alexandria · « **Reply #49 on:** July 11, 2016, 11:51:02 AM »

This started with Kevin Sloniker.

By the way, he is being sentenced on July 13th.

Had the SSPX priests stepped in with Sloniker, this could have been avoided perhaps.

Anyone have an idea just how long this filth has been going on?

The SSPX will fit right in with the novus ordo now! Good job!!

Alexandria · « **Reply #50 on:** July 11, 2016, 12:02:41 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79

Quote from: hollingsworth
Mark:
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This is one of a very short list of things that will cure the SSPX.

At this point, I fear, nothing will cure the SSPX. Our Lady was reported to have told +Fellay, that unless he made the 2nd Rosary Crusade in 2008 for the Consecration of Russia, The SSPX was over. It was toast. He failed to obey Our Lady in 2006, though the Consecration had been Her desired intention then. The Holy Mother, apparently then, overlooked that failure, but warned him straitly concerning Her single intention for the 2nd Crusade. As we know, +F ignored Her request, and made the lifting of the so-called excommunications the theme for that RC. The rest is history. The sspx is toast. Folks had better leave the fallen apostolate while they still can.

Likely you are correct, but perhaps a legal kick in the teeth, the associated and deserved public humiliation, and resultant closed wallets will lessen the hubris of the liars and enablers of pederasts. Perhaps not.

To rub salt in our wounds, Fr. Crane's sermon in Phoenix today was about how parents should be putting their children in Society schools. What gall! Fr. Crane is among the ones who "allegedly" turned a deaf ear when he was warned about his parishioner and "camp counselor" pederast Sloniker.

Anyone who has children in a Society school needs to be vigilant and to teach their children to flee shrieking from any sɛҳuąƖ overtures and to immediately report the problem to mom and dad, who, in turn, should call the police, completely bypassing any liars and enablers.

Sad to say, we cannot trust the Society denials and reassurances. They have earned our mistrust.

Fr. Crane has his head in the sand. He is on the same level as that priest that went with Pfeiffer.

I've kept quiet about a lot, but no more.

Many of you really need to pray hard and long about your original position.

Alexandria · « **Reply #51 on:** July 11, 2016, 12:10:58 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

I heard from a couple in Post Falls this morning. They report that the school will not close, but that they are already preparing for the opening of a new school year. I hear, furthermore, that Pharaoh Bernie hardened his heart. Originally, they had a new priest scheduled to take over for Fr. Vassal in the wake of the latest scandal. However that decision was reversed. Apparently, the sspx hierarchy, (Fellay?) informed concerned laity that nobody is going to tell Menzingen what to do. It is not our place.
What is more, apparently, 20 ICC families are pulling their kids out of ICA. I hope the report is true. Even better news would be that ICC was on the market and had been closed down altogether.

I hope 40 families pull their children out of the school, and I hope the parish collapses from lack of filthy lucre to keep it going.

Any fool that would stay there at this point I have no sympathy for. Especially in the Post Falls area, there are plenty of options. No one needs the SSPX.

Alexandria · « **Reply #52 on:** July 11, 2016, 12:16:11 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

Yesterday, a lady from Post Falls, who shares time between SSPX Masses there and Masses at our independent chapel, said something that resonated with us. She said that many of the faithful at ICC still do not know about the scandals there. They are uninformed, apparently, even as I write. She had just begun to undertake to conduct an information campaign in order to get the message out. She said that we'd be surprised to learn how many of the faithful, even those close to ground zero, still know little or nothing about it.
We all know how Fellay & Co. operate, usually in secrecy, often behind closed doors, endeavoring always to keep any news, damaging to the Society, from our ears.
I would suggest this: A number of you, probably, have acquaintances, i.e. relatives, friends, who attend ICC. Contact them by phone, letter or email. Tell them everything that you know about the situation. Shout it from the housetops.
Additionally, those of you active on other forums, get the story out. Do not give sspx hierarchy the satisfaction of being able to keep yet another scandal under wraps and undealt with.
I would also suggest that some of you write personally to Michael Matt of the Remnant, and John Vennari of Catholic Family News, telling them what you know in detail.
Commenting on sermons, talks and debate forums posted on Youtube is another means of getting information out. Most Youtube videos provide a comment format which allows the viewer to share remarks and opinions.
Let's blanket cyber space and the airways with the news. Let none of this evil be hidden any longer.

I would also suggest that we go on novus ordo fora and warn those in the novus ordo who are thinking of decamping to the sspx on account of Francis.

They are under the illusion that the sspx is heaven on earth.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 11, 2016, 01:25:59 PM »

Quote from: nctradcath

This vice is not natural to fallen children. The child was either raped or molested multiple times by at least one adult most likely.

I concur.

My husband works with these people. The cases are almost always the same. Some family member or family friend is given free access to the children and they are abused. They can't tell their parents because the parents love the family member or family friend so much and the children think they will be responsible for ruining the family. Then the children start to build resentment toward the parents for allowing that person into the family and thereby abusing them. Then they start to hate the parent. Eventually they stop loving people all together. Then their way of returning the "favor" so to speak is visiting the abuse onto other innocent children.

I have said this many, many times before. Almost every traditional Catholic I know has absolutely NO gαydar. They can't tell a queer from a beer. My best friend, who I credit for really bringing me into traditional Catholicism, whose children are amazing, actually brought one of these queers to my house. She had ZERO clue. I recognized it as soon as I saw him on my door step.

Also MANY ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ men hide in traditional Catholicism. This is true. They are drawn to the lace and bells and power and unlimited access to young boys.

I trust NO ONE with my children. Ever. I love my priest. I believe he is a very holy man. But I won't leave my children with him and he wouldn't ask anyway because he is totally aware of the implications involved.

I don't leave my kids with ANYBODY.

It's happened before in my own family when my oldest two boys were just 7 and 4. And my 7 year old took the brunt of the abuse to protect his little brother. They were not forcibly raped but other things went on. My husband and I were too busy with our own lives to even notice and my mother, with whom they were in the care of, was one of those people who thinks queers are great people.

As a result, my husband and I moved over 1000 miles away from my family (this was a teenage family member) never to return. And we never will.

Parents, especially trad parents, really should wake up. This ain't 1950 anymore. SSPX is not a safe haven with great Catholic schools. The demons have invaded every aspect of this world, including the SSPX, and trad Catholic families.

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts are the worst of the worst. This is not harmless!

I will say many prayers for these poor children. I pray that their families come to terms with this and vow to move as far away from this mess as possible.

I am also an advocate for homeschooling.

Matthew · « **Reply #54 on:** July 11, 2016, 01:45:48 PM »

I agree -- ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs "recruit" -- they corrupt children, who grow up to corrupt children of their own and the cycle continues.

It's like a typical parasite life cycle. The parasite lays its eggs in a victim host, and then those eggs eventually hatch into a fully grown parasite, which then goes off to lay more eggs in another host...

A friend of my mother experienced this. Her son was at a (protestant) summer camp, and was abused there. She didn't find out about it until years later, when this son of hers went on to abuse some boys himself. This woman reacted differently from her husband (I believe one of them called the cops), and that actually put such a strain on their marriage that they divorced for a while!

Ever since then, I have been convinced of how the life cycle of the parasite "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ" works. They have to infect others to propagate their kind.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #55 on:** July 11, 2016, 02:12:11 PM »

Again, I encourage you folks to spread the word about this wherever you can, as, for example, here-

Get the word out. The SSPX would love to keep all this horror self-contained as much as possible. Those trad publications, like The Remnant and Catholic Family News, who depend on sspx faithful for much of their subscribership, also have a vested interest in keeping these scandals hidden. We need to be the town criers!

Matthew · « **Reply #56 on:** July 11, 2016, 02:22:42 PM »

Quote from: Alexandria

Quote from: hollingsworth
Mark:
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This is one of a very short list of things that will cure the SSPX.

At this point, I fear, nothing will cure the SSPX. Our Lady was reported to have told +Fellay, that unless he made the 2nd Rosary Crusade in 2008 for the Consecration of Russia, The SSPX was over. It was toast. He failed to obey Our Lady in 2006, though the Consecration had been Her desired intention then. The Holy Mother, apparently then, overlooked that failure, but warned him straitly concerning Her single intention for the 2nd Crusade. As we know, +F ignored Her request, and made the lifting of the so-called excommunications the theme for that RC. The rest is history. The sspx is toast. Folks had better leave the fallen apostolate while they still can.

I agree with you. The SSPX is toast.

Gamaliel was right: Acts 5:38-39

You seem to have a problem with the SSPX, not the neo-SSPX.

So I vehemently disagree with you.

The SSPX was the work of God. It was good and holy. But like the Catholic Church itself, it was made up of men and so it has many bad elements in it.

If God could allow the Catholic Church itself to become what it is today -- we're talking about the Bride of Christ which has the solemn promise of Christ that "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". How much easier would it be for a good organization like the SSPX to corrupt and fall?

That is what happened. It wasn't rotten from the outset. +ABL was a saint. His work (the SSPX) was the most Catholic group around. It was a beautiful, good organization blessed by God and bore many, many good fruits.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 11, 2016, 02:44:18 PM »

"It is better that scandal arise than that the truth be suppressed."
Pope St. Gregory the Great

What could be more satanic and cultic than SSPX priests and superiors closing ranks to make themselves accomplices in the sodomite abuse of children?

Matthew · « **Reply #58 on:** July 11, 2016, 03:05:46 PM »

Quote from: Alexandria

Matthew, I don't care that you disagree with me.

Yes, but I'd like to let the record show that you have an axe to grind against the SSPX from the very beginning, even when it was headed by the saintly Archbishop Lefebvre.

So your motives, even in opposing sodomy at an SSPX school, are suspect. Sure, perhaps you're against Sodomy (aren't we all?), but for you this is a perfect chance to kick your old enemy the SSPX a bunch of times. Not the neo-SSPX, but the good, original SSPX (including its modern day successor, the Resistance).

Just like many have questioned my motives when I allowed CathInfo to cover a scandal occurring at a Sedevacantist or Pfeifferian chapel.

P.S. I up-thumbed several of your posts -- quite a few of them.

But once you started getting into attacking the root of the SSPX -- your Gamaliel reference (If it's the work of God, nothing can stop it, otherwise it will come to nothing) and saying "you should re-think your original position" -- I thumbed both of those down.

jman123 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 11, 2016, 03:37:37 PM »

Is this scandal confirmed. If so then that's bad