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Ive been on 2 jury trials to convict men of murder.  The 'smoking gun', absolute 100% proof of a crime exists only on tv.  Circuмstantial evidence is what most cases are built upon.  This case has plenty of circuмstantial evidence, as well as admittance by authorities that a scandal happened.  We may never know all the details (nor do we deserve to) but we have way, way more facts than just hearsay.

Did you also only hear the prosecutor's side and 2 out of 20 witness testimonies?

No one denies there was/is a scandal, that it is bad and that Fr Vassal mishandled it.

 

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No one denies there was/is a scandal, that it is bad and that Fr Vassal mishandled it.

Then why do you keep saying you're 'open to believing proof' if its shown?  Why do you keep calling things hearsay?  Do you even know what these terms mean?  

There was a scandal.  There was silence and a lax attitude by authorities.  Said authorities are being replaced.  This is fact.  This is proof of the scandal.  This is not hearsay.

Please read this 5x before responding.

I am referring to the details and specific allegations all through the thread. Have you read the thread?? What's been said -- with conviction -- about Fr. Vassal? About the boys themselves?

"Oh Fr. Vassal thinks boys need porn."

"Oh really?" Gasp!!

I am going to believe that because ... who said so again?

I believe he mishandled the scandal. I believe he didn't make it a priority. That's as far as I am letting my imagination run. I am not going to convict him of mishandling it because he is lax or careless or has a pattern of enabling sɛҳuąƖ indiscretions (as "proven" because more than one person has had serious problems in the parish over the course of years -- please.) There could be other reasons, like not really knowing what to do or not grasping the gravity or being too close to the problem to see it clearly, being lied to etc... THAT's the stuff we don't know and THAT's the stuff we shouldn't be speculating on.

Do you not understand that anything shared in the "accounts" or in the "mailbag" is hearsay? Anything the members here have attributed to Fr. Vassal as reason for his failure is speculation? The scandal has been confirmed. That is IT. The details, the why, how, when, where, the motives, the causes, the damages etc... are ALL up for debate. They are unconfirmed. Unless you are willing to accept the testimony of whoever decided to put it up on CI as unequivocal, objective truth. And I am not. I'd have to hear the whole story, from everyone, and not-so-unfortunately, that isn't my place. Nor is it yours. Nor anyone else's here.