Author Topic: Sodomy Scandal in Post Falls, ID - SSPX Immaculate Conception Academy (Read 201647 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #245 on:** July 27, 2016, 10:25:23 AM »

I know that households sometimes have 2 members, but this wasn't one of them.

I use my common sense.

For example, in this case, Bonum was at the "downthumb limit" for one of his opponents, which he publicly mentioned, and was likely frustrated into signing up for a second account.

Of course, I also have a restriction in place where you can't vote on posts that pre-dated your own sign-up on CathInfo :)

Also, although some companies have 25 employees, what are the chances that two EMPLOYEES at a random company of 25 would be Traditional Catholic, much less CathInfo members? The mathematical chances of that are infinitesimal, and in fact it's never happened to the best of my knowledge.

Does ANYONE out there have co-workers that browse CathInfo along side them, each with their own account?

CWA · « **Reply #246 on:** July 27, 2016, 03:13:40 PM »

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If you want to believe that children will be protected simply by not going to Post Falls, great.

I don't recall reading any posts in this thread where someone said they believe their children will be 100% protected from all evils simply by not going to Post Falls. Of course there are dangers everywhere, but any parent who would knowingly send his son to a school where sodomy and other unspeakable sins have been going on for years, and where the pastor and principal would rather shoot the messenger than deal with the problem is out of his mind.

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But all of a sudden it's all at Fr. Vassal's feet. Yeah that's fair.

No one said it was "100% ("all") at Fr. V's feet." But obviously he bears huge responsibility for what transpired at the school through his negligence.

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but generally, I do not believe for a minute he is the only or even the worst adult culpable here.

Who said he was? And anyway, who is the "worst adult culpable here" is sheer speculation and somewhat irrelevant.

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But at the same time, I am not involved and have to stay somewhat detached from my opinion of what's "most likely".

Good idea; I must admit I take the word of those who live out there before I listen to your speculations.

CWA · « **Reply #247 on:** July 27, 2016, 03:40:34 PM »

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Quote from: Matthew
...Hearing that my boys "consented" to all the sodomy would be COLD COMFORT, let me tell you that as a parent....

... Are they actually sodomites? Are they effeminate and attracted to men and/or boys? Are they rife with perversion, never again to lead normal lives? Do they identify?

A percentage of children/teens experiment to varying degrees with each other since it's secret and hidden but not necessarily for truly ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies. That's where crude jokes about boys schools and girls schools come from, do they not? ...
So I am forced to wonder which category this story falls into before I can fully convict these boys of being all out sodomites for life who can never get over this or have hope for any normal Catholic future. Experiments for the sake of secret sex and curiosity or truly ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies for the sake of being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ? Granted the few people that I know well enough to know their darkest secrets represent a small percentage (I think), but I cannot help that I have seen there's a difference, and it makes me stop short of writing off all these boys to oblivion. In the absence of any proof I prefer to hope they have a chance, especially if they have the Faith, (hopefully) decent parents and confessors, and can be well-directed. But again, I am open to the alternative IF or when it comes to light.

Did someone take over wallflower's account, and someone else is posting in her name?

I can't believe some of what I'm reading here. To minimize the utter seriousness of what occurred at ICA - just unbelievable.

Perhaps the thread is getting too long, and we need a reminder of what happened, from an ICA parent who attended the meeting with Fr. Vassal:

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It is very true. ... Unfortunately it is most probably worse than what is posted here. ... The affected children of sodomy, molestation, group masturbation are not receiving any help or counselling. These sins are spreading in the homes to the younger siblings. ...

I have spoken to high school parents. They did seek help, their children sought help. They were ill advised and the boys remained on campus. Its my understanding that not one boy ever was suspended for one day for this behavior. So far, it is established that this has spread to 8-9th grade boys this last school year. At least one family has had an older brother affect his younger brother.

...The horrible actions happened on campus over two school years at least. (There was group masturbation, sodomy, molestation). ... parents confirm that it is ongoing and that many boys are participants and victims. 8-15 boys. At this time there's no telling how many [more] boys. There are many large families involved.
Is that understandable?

To see commentary about how "A percentage of children/teens experiment to varying degrees" etc in the face of the activities listed by pendulum bolded by me above - my mind is reeling, and I don't know what to say. Can anyone imagine St. John Bosco reassuring parents in such a manner? "Hey, a percentage of children/teens experiment to varying degrees, and after all, they might not be full-out sodomites for life; they might grow up to have a normal Catholic future."

BTW, I don't recall reading in the thread that all of the involved are irredeemable, and are 100% sodomite etc. Once again, wallflower, you are the one doing a lot of extrapolating and making assumptions about what people mean and think. Let's certainly hope & pray the boys can come around and lead a good Catholic life someday. But for someone to brush off the exceedingly serious sins going on in that school, or minimize them in any way, and to minimize the damage done to these boys - there are no words.

CWA · « **Reply #248 on:** July 27, 2016, 03:49:04 PM »

More testimony from someone involved. I know the critics will say the person didn't sign their name, but obviously they have their reasons for not doing so. And as Matthew said, anonymous to the general population doesn't mean Matthew doesn't know the identity of the person.

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From the mailbag:

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I read [CathInfo], and thought I would update you on the post falls affair. Most everything written so far is fairly correct. I say fairly because many go off course with their bickering and jumping to conclusions.

Correspondence has been received by us parishioners from Fr Wegner informing us of Fr Vassals resignation, with a letter also from Fr Vassal himself confirming that he is leaving, effective today. We will be getting a new pastor, which is good! But I want to say that the school is in no way fixed. I only hope the parents can see that! It is depressing for those of us being honest about the situation, to see what is happening and what is not.

I appreciate very much your helping to spread our terrible news, as it needed to get out to inform people. There will always be people who won't believe it, and I am sorry for them. It is a terrible thing when abuse touches your family, and I hope they never need to experience that.

Please continue to pray for the people of post falls, and especially for our children.

BTW, to this confidential author and all concerned parties, be assured of my continued prayers for you all.

CWA · « **Reply #249 on:** July 27, 2016, 03:53:00 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79

...Your version of "prudence and reservation" is akin to smelling smoke and hearing the crackling of flames while you and your children remain in bed until your television news confirms you and your children died in your house fire.

:applause:

This statement is so appropriate, not only WRT this thread, but for so many other topics as well.