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Author Topic: Should the Society and the Resistance reconcile?  (Read 5067 times)

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Offline Meg

Re: Should the Society and the Resistance reconcile?
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2024, 10:47:14 AM »
The Apostles also were activists, not lazy defeats, and that's part of the reason Christianity has grown so much it has. If they were lazy defeatists, like some of the Trump naysayers also are, Christianity, humanly speaking, would hardly have got off the ground. Lazy defeatism is a sin.

And the Apostles, except for one, all died as martyrs who would not compromise on their loyalty to Our lord and what He commanded them to do. No compromise. 

Re: Should the Society and the Resistance reconcile?
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2024, 10:48:31 AM »
His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI. The Pope who broke Bugnini.

What do you mean by "broke Bugnini"?


Offline Meg

Re: Should the Society and the Resistance reconcile?
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2024, 11:49:08 AM »
Have you seen the Dark Knight returns, SimpleMan? Bane tells Batman, "I broke you". He actually hadn't, but anyway, "broke" in this context means someone who defeated the agenda of another person. What I mean is, Pope Benedict XVI's defeated Bugnini's agenda. Even some years earlier, a Roman Congregation rebuked Bugnini for his wicked attempts to try to get the TLM banned as "casting odium on the Liturgical Tradition": "Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, whom Paul VI put in charge of the post-conciliar liturgical reform, wanted to obtain an explicit ruling to the effect that the Novus Ordo Missae of 1970 abrogates the Old Mass, so that the latter would be suppressed de jure. To apply for such a ruling to the Pontifical Commission for the Interpretation of Conciliar Docuмents, he needed permission from the Cardinal Secretary of State. On 10 June 1974 the Secretary of State refused to give the requested permission on the grounds that such an attempt would be seen as “casting odium on the liturgical tradition” (A. Bugnini, The Reform of the Liturgy 1948-1975, Collegeville, Minnesota: The Liturgical Press, 1990, p. 300-301). https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7729

See also: "The Commissio Cardinalitia of 1986
In 1986 Pope John Paul II appointed a commission of nine cardinals to examine the legal status of the Old Mass.
The commission consisted of Agostino Cardinal Casaroli, Bernard Cardinal Gantin, Paul Augustin Cardinal Mayer, Antonio Cardinal Innocenti, Silvio Cardinal Oddi, Petro Cardinal Palazzini, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Alfons Cardinal Stickler and Jozef Cardinal Tomko and it was instructed to examine whether the New Rite of Mass promulgated by Pope Paul VI abrogated the Old Rite, and whether a bishop can prohibit his priests from celebrating the Old Mass.

The commission met in December 1986. Eight of nine cardinals answered that the New Mass had not abrogated the Old Mass. The nine cardinals unanimously determined that Pope Paul VI never gave the bishops the authority to forbid priest from celebrating Mass according to the Missal of St Pius V." https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7729 These findings were confirmed by Pope Benedict XVI in Summorum Pontificuм. Some sedes place all the blame on the Popes, but none at all on Bugnini.

God Bless.

What one pope (B16) allows, another pope (Francis) can take away. That's why Rome needs to convert to the Catholic Faith, instead of just use the Catholic Faith to advance the Modernist agenda. Until Rome converts, the Old Mass isn't safe in the conciliar church. That's something that we can pray for. 

Re: Should the Society and the Resistance reconcile?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2024, 02:29:11 AM »
Thread title is a loaded question. The Resistance hasn't done anything wrong so they don't to do any reconciling. All of the wrong is with the Society. 

Re: Should the Society and the Resistance reconcile?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2024, 06:00:40 AM »
It seems that you don't want to say what your activism consists of, but you want us to join you in it. I don't understand that.
I suspect it's because it would reveal his true identity.