Author Topic: Shocked in Saint Marys (Read 8754 times)

Domitilla · « **on:** September 16, 2012, 03:34:29 PM »

This is truly sickening! Does the new Rector of St. Mary's even have a clue as to how sinful it is to publicly display this calumnious docuмent? May our Good God help him ....

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2012, 03:38:24 PM »

Good post.

Bad news.

As Fr. Chazal said, "War On." He's being punished for NOT being "silent."

Nine Ways of Being Accessory to Another's Sin

1. By Counsel, 2. By Command, 3. By Consent, 4. By provocation, 5. By praise or flattery, 6. By concealment, 7. By partaking, 8. By silence, 9. By defense of the ill done.

To avoid punishment, he would have to sin.

But he would have to sin just in the "right" way, to please Fr. Couture, because if
he were to sin in a way that does NOT please Fr. Couture, he would be punished
for that as well. It's like a fraternity game. The senior members hand down
ridiculous demands and the pleebs have to perform in just the "right" way or else
they get punished with some stupid manner of humiliation.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2012, 03:40:51 PM »

Quote from: Domitilla

This is truly sickening! Does the new Rector of St. Mary's even have a clue as to how sinful it is to publicly display this calumnious docuмent? May our Good God help him ....

Someone should tell him to read CathInfo, so he can learn about how to be a good
Rector. Obviously, they didn't train him for the job very well. Poor man.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2012, 04:02:23 PM »

Unbelievable.

The Little Pebble. Seriously, I thought it would blow over and become something that people would laugh about.

Thanks for the docuмentation,Lepanto- otherwise I would have doubted.

Ferdinand · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2012, 04:10:00 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Domitilla
This is truly sickening! Does the new Rector of St. Mary's even have a clue as to how sinful it is to publicly display this calumnious docuмent? May our Good God help him ....

Someone should tell him to read CathInfo, so he can learn about how to be a good
Rector. Obviously, they didn't train him for the job very well. Poor man.

Fr. Ronstadt, Fr. Coiffeur and the new Rector are the organ grinder's monkeys.

They have been trained to do one thing... and they are certainly not in their positions to think.

Sienna629 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 16, 2012, 05:16:23 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Domitilla
This is truly sickening! Does the new Rector of St. Mary's even have a clue as to how sinful it is to publicly display this calumnious docuмent? May our Good God help him ....

Someone should tell him to read CathInfo, so he can learn about how to be a good
Rector. Obviously, they didn't train him for the job very well. Poor man.

Who is the new Rector?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2012, 05:48:05 PM »

In case anyone is coming on to this thread without prior knowledge, Fr. Couture's
letter is scandalous because it is literally libel. He could be sued for writing it. He
has publicly published a calumny against the reputation of two holy priests, and
the OP shows that this black mark on Holy Mother Church is on public display in
a wall case in a church in St. Mary's Kansas.

The letter comes from the Philippines, where Fr. Couture is District Superior, and
where he has forbidden Frs. Chazal and Pfeiffer from saying Mass in SSPX chapels.
So Fr. Chazal has now said Mass on the street next to one of the chapels. Here is
another thread describing that:

Fr. Pfeiffer's sermons - The new place to listen to them
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=20581&min=15&num=1

Contains this:

Fr Chazal Sept 16 Manila Street Mass video 1

There is another thread where Matthew explains the reason the letter is calumny:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=20485&min=15&num=1

These 2 posts say Fr. Pfeiffer also said Mass on the street 9-16-2012:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=20581&min=14&num=1

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=20581&min=18&num=1

Domitilla · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2012, 05:55:58 PM »

Sienna629: "Who is the new Rector?"

The new Rector is Fr. Gerard Beck

Ferdinand · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2012, 07:35:52 PM »

Quote from: Domitilla

Sienna629: "Who is the new Rector?"

The new Rector is apparently Fr. Gerard Beck

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2012, 09:38:54 PM »

What the heck is a little pebble?

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2012, 09:41:39 PM »

It is an entirely false "locution." It's absolute bologna.

magdalena · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:10:55 PM »

Quote from: Domitilla

Sienna629: "Who is the new Rector?"

The new Rector is Fr. Gerard Beck

He was Father Rostand's first assistant after first being the bursar, so I'm not surprised about his stand supporting +Fellay, but I am disappointed that he would stoop so low as to display Fr. Couture's letter in the front vestibule. He was the pastor at the chapel I attend between the years 2003 and 2008. So that makes me even more disappointed still. Indeed, Neil, a "poor man".

:sad:

Maria Elizabeth · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:52:55 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

Quote from: Domitilla
Sienna629: "Who is the new Rector?"

The new Rector is Fr. Gerard Beck

He was Father Rostand's first assistant after first being the bursar, so I'm not surprised about his stand supporting +Fellay, but I am disappointed that he would stoop so low as to display Fr. Couture's letter in the front vestibule. He was the pastor at the chapel I attend between the years 2003 and 2008. So that makes me even more disappointed still. Indeed, Neil, a "poor man".

:sad:

Fr. Beck also used to be in charge of the SSPX schools.

He was my pastor, too, for a while. I was shocked to find it was he who had posted the letter. I thought he was above propagating slander.

May God have mercy on his soul.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:07:40 PM »

Quote from: Maria Elizabeth

I was shocked to find it was he who had posted the letter.

Sorry if I missed it, but do we actually have knowledge that he was directly involved with the posting of this docuмent? St. Mary's is a big place and I'm sure the person in charge can't directly oversee everything.

Whether the conclusions reached are correct or incorrect, I'm seeing here lately a lot of drawing conclusions that are merely speculation and those suddenly becoming fact a few posts later.

magdalena · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2012, 04:46:17 AM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

Quote from: Maria Elizabeth
I was shocked to find it was he who had posted the letter.

Sorry if I missed it, but do we actually have knowledge that he was directly involved with the posting of this docuмent? St. Mary's is a big place and I'm sure the person in charge can't directly oversee everything.

Whether the conclusions reached are correct or incorrect, I'm seeing here lately a lot of drawing conclusions that are merely speculation and those suddenly becoming fact a few posts later.

True enough, said, but Father Beck always told us that nothing could be posted in the vestibule without him first approving it. So if he is unaware of it, hopefully, someone will notify him of it, and he will take it down immediately and publicly apologize.