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Patricius opened the floodgates to the Accordistas and they sank IA.

This is hardly the case.  The one post that 'sank' IA (in reality Patricius or the software drained the water from the bath tub by pulling the plug) was by a virulent resistor.

Furthermore, the questions about k-gate etc are linked to the 'resistors' and their arguments.

So, if anyone is responsible for the problems encountered by Ignis Ardens, it is the resistors.

God Bless!!!

Has anyone made you aware that bearing False Witness is sinful?

Oh yes, I have been made aware of it - although if you believe I have done so above - I don't think you understand what it means to bear false witness.

I have also noted that a number of 'resistors' in their fervor has trespassed that and a number of other commandments with great regularity.

This doesn't even begin to delve into their doctrinal aberrations.

God Bless!!!

Don't be afraid, Hollingsworth.  I have only seen Tradical behave as a Catholic gentleman, despite being constantly baited.  

Since you say you do not care if Cathinfo folds tomorrow, one has to wonder why you would bother backbiting in this instance.

Matthew, I warn you again:  Get rid of Tradical or you're in for endless sophistry and rhetorical nonsense.  There is nobody like him who can move a thread from the sublime to the ridiculous, and do it very quickly.  I don't care how you react to me.  I don't care anything about being banned.  I don't care if Cathinfo folds tomorrow.  I'm just telling you what a Tradical brings to an otherwise pretty good discussion forum thus far. :whistleblower:

I fail to understand why you are so afraid of me.

God bless and keep you!!!

"... Does anyone else notice a pattern here? Do you see on which side of the fence this fellow stands? ..."

Many think they 'know' where I stand.

What they seem to fail to realize is that I stand upon Church teaching in my arguments.  

This truth is somewhat uncomfortable for some because it challenges their preconceived notions about the Church and Her teaching.

Plain and simple.

Thanks to Bishops Williamson and Fellay this is something that I have made some  progress in overcoming.

As Bishop Williamson often said: Think!

It all started when I heard Bishop Fellay say something that Pope Benedict XVI had said a month or so earlier.  When the Pope had said it, I assumed that he was saying something wrong, and I was confused with Bishop Fellay made the same statement.

This caused to me think, and instead of mindlessly reacting, I studied the matter. It wasn't long before I found the Pope Benedict XVI and Bishop Fellay had been quoting the Catechism of the Council of Trent - almost word for word.

Of course, now Hollingsworth will ask for a reference to the quote. I am afraid that in this case I can no longer do so as it was in 2009/10 and I can no longer recall it.

What I do know is that I realized that I had developed a number of prejudices. As I studied Church teaching I realized that they (prejudices) were narrowing my perception of this crisis in the Church. As a consequence of this narrowed perception, my ability to develop options to respond to this crisis was limited.

This is bad.  If you have a smaller perception of a battle field than your enemy, he can out maneuver you. In the air force they call it target fixation. The one with the fixation ends up a lawn dart, called a maneuvering kill.

Perhaps this is why Hollingsworth is afraid of me.  What I post does not agree with his 'world view' and the fact that I draw my conclusions from Church Teaching makes him uncomfortable and afraid that he might be wrong.

So, yes, I can guarantee that I am not on the side of the resistors.  

God Bless!

J. Paul:

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Hollingsworth is absolutely correct in his assessment, and he made no comments as to any gentlemanly deficiency, but rather to antics and behavior which undermines honest discussion and the forums where this might occur.
So, there is not element of backbiting, only the wisdom of a warning.

This thread fell apart pages ago.  Figuratively, it lies in meaningless, senseless pieces on the ground.  Tradical will simply grind those pieces to fine powder.  Thanks, J. Paul.  You obviously know something about Tradical's MO.  I'm just trying to spare Matthew and Cathinfo from future headaches with him.  There is nobody quite like Tradical who can turn a topic into tasteless mash quite as effectively as he can.

You are blaming me for the downward spiral of this thread?

I assume that you believe that I am responsible for the 'offline' status of Ignis Ardens ...

Wow, I didn't think that I was that powerful.

God bless!

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I assume that you believe that I am responsible for the 'offline' status of Ignis Ardens ...

Wow, I didn't think that I was that powerful.

God bless!

Several people worked together to shut that site down. I know you weren't one of them.  Deo gratias.

Thank you.

God Bless!

Miserere:

This thread is starting to develop signs of IA's Disease.

BTW, good to see you again, hollingsworth.

Exactly! The IA disease is setting in.  49 pages of this insane thread prove it to my satisfaction.  The infection can only spread, and Tradical-like viruses, allowed to travel freely about Cathinfo, will produce exactly the same results in the end.  :whistleblower:

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Matthew, I warn you again:  Get rid of Tradical or you're in for endless sophistry and rhetorical nonsense.  There is nobody like him who can move a thread from the sublime to the ridiculous, and do it very quickly.  I don't care how you react to me.  I don't care anything about being banned.  I don't care if Cathinfo folds tomorrow.  I'm just telling you what a Tradical brings to an otherwise pretty good discussion forum thus far. :whistleblower:

I fail to understand why you are so afraid of me.

God bless and keep you!!!

NO ONE is afraid of you, Tardical.  We don't like you.  That's all.  If you question why, is like this: Your home base of Idiot Ardens is flushed down the toilet, you find yourself flailing like some '50's housewife with a burning casserole, so you decide to leech onto CathInfo.  Yes, leech is the appropriate word.  You slither here and your first course of action is to defend someone who has been outed - outed without a shadow of a doubt and with much evidence, evidence that you willingly put your head into the sand (or elsewhere) when confronted with - as a paid shill with a feminist agenda to undermine the efforts of +Williamson and paint his supporters as extremists.  Do you seriously think that would endear you to anyone?  And you do it with what you think is humility and a velvet touch, which is the mask you hide behind.  All the while, desperately trying to establish a foothold here in order to belch your pro+Fellay oinking points while painting yourself as being 'misunderstood'.  Much of like what you did on IA.  Thank God that others here have a memory that goes beyond two weeks and who see you for what you really want to do.