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"Eleison Comments" 273 by Mgr. Williamson
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2012, 04:26:37 PM »
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  • and in another forty years, will we be listening to audios of BW.... those with ears to hear.. or will we all be deaf, by then....


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    "Eleison Comments" 273 by Mgr. Williamson
    « Reply #16 on: October 09, 2012, 10:47:05 AM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    Quote from: bernadette
    Evidently, it is a collection of sentiments from priests, layfolk, and Sisters...mainly regarding the Swedish Television interview...boy, there are sure are a lot of rotten people in the world, and some of the worst are so called "religious"....+Williamson has had to endure some of the most hateful and vile treatment I have ever witnessed...one brother bishop participating while the two other brother bishops stood silently by.


    Yes, it is perfidy on the part of some, weakness on the part of others.

    Bishop Williamson had been making revisionist statements for nearly 20 years, and the SSPX leadership was just humoring him all this time?  


    People are lemmings.  If the superiors of the SSPX had arisen to defend H.E.
    at the time, people would have been more respectful.  But since they did not,
    the lemmings followed them and criticized him.  Something had changed in
    the leadership, something behind the scenes.  There was something in the
    works that required a pro-Zionist reaction to what +W said to that journalist.  
    We may never know what it was in this life.  

    +Williamson answers all his mail.  I try to imagine what it's like for him to
    open it every day.  It must be like running the gauntlet of torture.  Some
    days, most of what he has to read is criticism and insults.  And when he
    comes across a word of appreciation or a little handmade card from a child, it
    must make it all worthwhile.  But he's not so proud or self-centered to think of
    telling us about this.  He does not want to draw attention to himself.  

    Try it and see...........

    He answers his mail.  Have your children in home schooling make greeting
    cards by hand, using cut-outs of construction paper or gift wrap that you're
    going to throw away, pieces of ribbon and shiny stars, little pictures of angels
    from magazines that were going to be recycled.  Put a little humor in, like cut
    out pictures of lemmings and write, "people are lemmings" under these glued-
    on figures.  Give them the assignment of making a card for Bishop Williamson
    to let him know we appreciate his faithfulness to the principles of Archbishop
    Lefebvre, and for passing on what he has received from him.  Things like
    that.  He will reply, and tell you how it is nice to be appreciated.  

    But he will sleep better at night and he will have better health because your
    children made him a greeting card.  And this you might not know for sure......
    ................ in this life, that is ............................





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    "Eleison Comments" 273 by Mgr. Williamson
    « Reply #17 on: October 09, 2012, 11:06:22 AM »
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  • Solzhenitsyn said that in the USSR, because the media was controlled by one central authority, the people could easily recognize the lies. However, in the West, because everyone can lie, it is very difficult for the people to know the truth. He said that in the West, one person would wrote something bad about his writings, without ever having read the book, and then everyone else quoted the lie, and added their own further lies.

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    "Eleison Comments" 273 by Mgr. Williamson
    « Reply #18 on: October 09, 2012, 11:48:06 AM »
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    Solzhenitsyn said that in the USSR, because the media was controlled by one central authority, the people could easily recognize the lies. However, in the West, because everyone can lie, it is very difficult for the people to know the truth. He said that in the West, one person would wrote something bad about his writings, without ever having read the book, and then everyone else quoted the lie, and added their own further lies.


    One of the criteria for being hired as a Sociology professor is to demonstrate
    your ability to denounce Solzhenitsyn first as a person (ad hominems)
    and then in his writings, but to downplay the writings so as to discourage the
    students from reading him.  Try to find a sociology graduate who ever read the
    works of Solzhenitsyn.  It seems you have to hold contempt for his very name
    before you can get a degree in that nonsense major.  Oh, they will SAY they
    read him, but when you ask more specifically, you'll find that what they read is
    actually someone else writing ABOUT him, and paraphrasing his words, in order
    to ridicule him.  

    It's one of the errors of Russia, and it's being used against +Williamson!

    His ECs are his own private battle against the calumnies.  I'm always amused to
    find those who are disrespectful of H.E. are not familiar with Dinoscopus.  And
    when I offer them an email sample copy or even a print-out of a recent one,
    they are not interested.  It's the anti-Solzhenitsyn complex at work in our time!

    They tried to do the same thing with Cardinal Mindzenty but he was much too
    popular already.  They had to wait for him to die.  And his memory, too.  But his
    memory still lives on, in the hearts and minds of his countrymen, and in the hearts
    and minds of those who are willing to learn.  

    These are great men for homeschoolers to study!
    Solzhenitsyn
    Mindzenty
    Williamson
    Cure d'Ars
    Pope St. Pius X
    Padre Pio

    The kids going through public schools will not have heard a thing about them.  

    I tried to talk to some Coptic Orthodox about how Padre Pio appeared to a
    pilot of an Allied bomber who was going to drop his bomb before landing, and
    he was over Pietrelcina at the time.  They did not believe it.  Then I told them
    that Padre Pio had the stigmata, the only priest in the history of the Church
    to have it, and they refused to believe that, too.  They said, "No one but Jesus
    Christ ever had those marks."  But then they told me about a Christian leader
    who demonstrated to the Moselms that his God was true, by making a mountain
    rise up off the ground, so the sun could be seen underneath it.   And the
    mountain went up, and slammed down, then went up, and down, and up and
    down, and the Moslems cried out to "Make it Stop!!!"  So I didn't give them
    a hard time about that, but no matter.   They still refused to accept my
    description of Padre Pio.   Very interesting.  

    I was an outsider.  I was in their territory.   They wanted me to accept their
    doctrine and they refused to listen to my testimony.  So +Fellay thinks he's
    going to waltz into NewRome and have them listen to what he has to say???

    The Coptic Orthodox have beautiful pictures and artwork.  They have delicious
    food and a very pleasant manner.  But they want nothing to do with Catholic
    doctrine, if it isn't already part of their own.

    Bishop Williamson said to Cardinal Hoyos, "Your peanuts are nice, your
    crackers are nice, you Cognac is nice, but we have two different religions."
    (Quoted by Fr. Chazal here)
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    "Eleison Comments" 273 by Mgr. Williamson
    « Reply #19 on: October 09, 2012, 08:32:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Emerentiana
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    Yeah, the Jansenism charge was particularly interesting.
    There's a "we are Church" attitude, especially among some of the
    French members of the SSPX.



    I have heard many SSPX priests say that the SSPX is "the Guardian of the Faith".
    Who appointed them for this role?  Pride goes before the fall.  
    Now that the cracks of resistence are starting to show,  the "Guardians" are showing true cult tactics to control the Sheep.  Obey.......or be expelled.


    And in times to come, we may see a true "silencing of the lambs".
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42


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    "Eleison Comments" 273 by Mgr. Williamson
    « Reply #20 on: October 09, 2012, 09:30:46 PM »
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    He answers his mail.  Have your children in home schooling make greeting
    cards by hand, using cut-outs of construction paper or gift wrap that you're
    going to throw away, pieces of ribbon and shiny stars, little pictures of angels
    from magazines that were going to be recycled.  Put a little humor in, like cut
    out pictures of lemmings and write, "people are lemmings" under these glued-
    on figures.  Give them the assignment of making a card for Bishop Williamson
    to let him know we appreciate his faithfulness to the principles of Archbishop
    Lefebvre, and for passing on what he has received from him.  Things like
    that.  He will reply, and tell you how it is nice to be appreciated.  


    Absolutely. I correspond with His Excellency on a regular basis by phone and mail, and His Grace has always written back....always!!! Let us inundate him more than ever with Christmas cards this year!

    Although it is difficult for most of us in North America to get extra time off for travel, if you can make it to the Bristol conference, it is worth the trip. I am thankful to my two colleagues who with myself were the first NA triumvirate to attend the first ever conference held at Bristol several years back. (Speaking humbly, it was our suggestion to His Grace to hold such conferences, and it is heartening to see it become so successful.)

    Make sure you stop at Bath too. Loverly historical town.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster