Author Topic: Sermon by Fr. Thomas Aquinas on Consecration (Read 3123 times)

Sed Contra · « **on:** March 17, 2015, 03:08:45 PM »

Fr. Thomas Aquinas, OSB, talks about the utter necessity and legality of the consecration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKoHu3ZiV9U&feature=youtu.be

Sed Contra · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:46:08 PM »

Note that he didn't mention another candidate but Fr. Faure - thus, no dominican consecration will likely be held. Besides, despite what Rorate Caeli and other disinformation blogs sustain, the only dominican present to the consecration will be Fr. Emmanuel Marie OP, not Innocent Marie.

Btw, that intel (about the consecration) probably was leaked yesterday on Rorate because this sermon took place in the monastery the last sunday, 15. Someone misunderstood what was told.

Graham · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2015, 05:10:09 PM »

Would you ming summarizing the sermon for anglophones?

Green Scapular · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2015, 11:14:32 PM »

I think we should refer to the superior of this Brazilian resistance monastery as Dom Tomás de Aquino. Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB is a faithful priest-monk at the SSPX-supporting Our Lady of Guadalupe monastery in New Mexico, USA.

Pilar · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2015, 12:08:17 AM »

Quote from: Green Scapular

I think we should refer to the superior of this Brazilian resistance monastery as Dom Tomás de Aquino. Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB is a faithful priest-monk at the SSPX-supporting Our Lady of Guadalupe monastery in New Mexico, USA.

And both are holy men, what times we are living in.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2015, 05:42:35 AM »

Quote from: Pilar

Quote from: Green Scapular
I think we should refer to the superior of this Brazilian resistance monastery as Dom Tomás de Aquino. Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB is a faithful priest-monk at the SSPX-supporting Our Lady of Guadalupe monastery in New Mexico, USA.

And both are holy men, what times we are living in.

Yes, both are holy men. The distinction should be: Dom Tomas de Aquino, faithful to Tradition and Fr. Thomas Aquinas, faithful to +Fellay.

TKGS · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2015, 06:28:08 AM »

As Bishop Fellay ages, it is unlikely that he will get approval from the Vatican to consecrate a bishop. It seems that the SSPX is setting itself up for either full integration with the Conciliar church or to simply die out as the Vatican waits them out.

It is true that Archbishop Lefebvre had permission to consecrate a bishop before that approval was withdrawn. The Vatican is unlikely to make that mistake again.

Sed Contra · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2015, 09:53:14 AM »

Quote from: Green Scapular

I think we should refer to the superior of this Brazilian resistance monastery as Dom Tomás de Aquino. Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB is a faithful priest-monk at the SSPX-supporting Our Lady of Guadalupe monastery in New Mexico, USA.

Fair. In France his title is 'Abbé', and that for sure diminish any misunderstanding. You are brazilian, right?

Centroamerica · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2015, 11:48:13 AM »

I am an American citizen and legal Brazilian permanent resident and I have no idea what this thread has gotten into. Dom Tomas Aquinas is Portuguese for Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB. They are the same person. Someone is confused, unless suddenly there is another Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB who is also a traditionalist ordained under the Lefebvre-line, but I sincerely doubt that. The Dom is a title that means he is the abbot-father, the same title is used for a bishop. English does not make this distinction.

Green Scapular · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2015, 12:01:17 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

I am an American citizen and legal Brazilian permanent resident and I have no idea what this thread has gotten into. Dom Tomas Aquinas is Portuguese for Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB. They are the same person. Someone is confused, unless suddenly there is another Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB who is also a traditionalist ordained under the Lefebvre-line, but I sincerely doubt that. The Dom is a title that means he is the abbot-father, the same title is used for a bishop. English does not make this distinction.

There is no "suddenly" about it. An American, Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB, out of the traditional Benedictine monastery near Silver City, New Mexico, USA, was ordained several years ago at the SSPX seminary in Winona, MN, after he received his priestly training there.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2015, 01:18:03 PM »

Quote from: Green Scapular

Quote from: Centroamerica
I am an American citizen and legal Brazilian permanent resident and I have no idea what this thread has gotten into. Dom Tomas Aquinas is Portuguese for Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB. They are the same person. Someone is confused, unless suddenly there is another Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB who is also a traditionalist ordained under the Lefebvre-line, but I sincerely doubt that. The Dom is a title that means he is the abbot-father, the same title is used for a bishop. English does not make this distinction.

There is no "suddenly" about it. An American, Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB, out of the traditional Benedictine monastery near Silver City, New Mexico, USA, was ordained several years ago at the SSPX seminary in Winona, MN, after he received his priestly training there.

Source?

B from A · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2015, 01:49:19 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

Quote from: Green Scapular
An American, Fr. Thomas Aquinas OSB, out of the traditional Benedictine monastery near Silver City, New Mexico, USA, was ordained several years ago at the SSPX seminary in Winona, MN, after he received his priestly training there.

Source?

http://stas.org/sites/sspx/files/v0112_jul2010.pdf

But no need for anyone to get bent out of shape either way. I'm sure most people understood from the context (or from clicking on the link, as the youtube title is "Dom Tomás de Aquino sobre a Sagração Episcopal no dia 19 de Março") that it was Dom Thomas Aquinas from Brazil, rather than Fr. Thomas Aquinas from Silver City. It might be clearer to some if the thread title said "Dom" instead of "Fr.", but there are bigger fish to fry in the world today.