This OP by Ekim is pretty good, really. Congrats to you, Ekim!
I have a few observations, based in the understanding that +Fellay is now
practicing, due to his compliance with the hermeneutic-of-continuity-principle-
of-B16 -- which B.F. is hanging onto by the skin of his teeth:
Our Priest was at the laying of the corner stone for the new Seminary. Yesterday he gave very brief highlights.
1) Bishop Fellay stated that if the Archbishop did not have the courage to
Consecrate Bishops in 1988 the Traditional Latin Mass would be dead.
Seen in the continuity of current thinking, which is based on tradition (why?
because we say it is!) the Latin Mass dying wouldn't be such a terrible thing,
because time moves on -- however, this outlook in the light of tradition tells
us that the Latin Mass can be appreciated for what it was, kind of like a display
in a museum appreciates what once was but is no more except for its memory.
2) Because of negotiations with Rome by the SSPX, the Traditional Mass was freed By BXVI. Now there are over 200 Novus Ordo Bishops who say the Latin Mass.
Of course, whether they "say the Traditional Mass" the way it was said in 1954
or 1917 or 1864 or 1776 or 1571 is neither here nor there. Let them say it
as it was during the abominable Vat.II, for example, according to the Mass
of John XXIII in 1962. Or, as it was in the Transitional Rite of 1967 - you know,
the one that Padre Pio was physically unable to say when ordered to under
"STRICT OBEDIENCE" because it caused him
too much unbearable pain
(he had unbearable pain all the time anyway, but this was
'too much' unbearable pain).
3) Many of these Bishops have contacted the SSPX saying that once they are recognized by Rome they would like to have their seminarians trained by the SSPX.
So the Modernists would like to have their young recruits accepted into the
traditional seminary, so they can bring their lack of preparation with them to
perhaps share their ignorance with the traditional students, and the traditional
students can share their knowledge with the Modernists' recruits who are so
proud of their know-nothing-ism. The new and the old with the old and the
new and everyone is happy! Why? Because we say "They Are Happy." It's
not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
The boys who have been slow-cooked in the principle of "pastoral sensitivity"
such that they would not even have been ELIGIBLE for seminary if they were
found to be unwilling to work side-by-side with fαɢs, or else BE fαɢs themselves,
are going to be thrown into the mix with the boys whose upbringing has
been consistently unaccepting of the Sin of Sodom, and any of its pomps
and innuendos. Are you ready for some "issues" to come up? For example,
any of the boys who learn to be UNWILLING to "work with fαɢs" -- upon their
return to their home diocese, will therefor be unacceptable to the bishop who
sent them, because he isn't going to "throw out the fαɢs" in his diocese, nor
is he going to appreciate having this new "INTOLERANCE!!" spreading among
his priests.
Although our priest didn’t say this, it is hypothesized that the reason for building such a monster seminary is b/c +Fellay is anticipating a union with apostate Rome. If each one of these Bishops sends five Seminarians, which is not an unreasonable number, the SSPX could get 1000 seminarians from these Novus Ordo Bishops.
If the new Virginia seminary gets 1000 seminarians, all of whom are eager
to be accommodating to Sodomites (if not practicing Sodomites themselves)
then how long do you suppose this
unnatural vice will take to spread to the
rest of the seminarians who came from the Winona sourcing of vocations?
It is also hypothesized that 1000 new traditional priests a year, spread all around the world, would breathe new life into the Church like it has not seen in at least half a century. This new diocese would then help fund this seminary so all the bills would be paid.
Someone didn't read the previous paragraph, apparently.
Two points don’t add up. 1) If these Bishops are so inspired by their new found Catholic Tradition, why don’t they start teaching this in their seminaries now or simply send their candidates for ordination to an Fraternity of St. Peter seminary?
It should be obvious that A) they don't 'start teaching this' in their own
seminaries because they don't have any professors who know "IT." They
threw out the textbooks 50 years ago, and even the books they have that
were copyright 1925 are "full of it" because Modernism was creeping back
in at that time just as Pope St. Pius X said that it would. But even if they
DID have the professors and the books, B) It would presume that their
objective is for their seminarians to LEARN IT. How can you be so sure?
How is it, for example, you come to believe that these Bishops are NOT so
enthusiastic about this plan because they are eager to watch the invasion
of the
sin of Sodom into traditional seminaries, like it happened in the
Pink
Palace of St. John's Camarillo, California, under Roger Cardinal Mahony?
2) Does +Fellay not realize that the end never justifies the means?
This is a good one. We have a function machine here, called
'the-hermeneutic-
of-continuity-function-machine, which is a black box with an IN port and an
OUT port. Something goes in the IN port, and when it comes out the OUT
port, it has been "processed" by the function machine.
And in this machine, which +F has gone through (when? it's anyone's guess,
but it could have been 28 years ago for all we know), the person gets
processed to accept the teachings of Vat.II in the light of tradition, and to
accept the teachings of Vat.II in the light of Vat.II; also, the traditional
teachings of the traditional Church are understood according to the unclean
spirit of Vat.II, and according to their own standard, but in such a way that
there is no rupture between the old and the new. The new is understood
in the light of the old and the old is understood in the light of the new, AND
both are understood in their own light, in and of themselves all at the same
time and without any ADMISSION of contradiction.
That is, the continuity is a DE-FACTO imposition by which all must abide.
So,
into the IN port goes this principle that "The End Never Justifies The
Means," which is a good teaching -- for its time! -- and what comes out of
the OUT port of our hermeneutic-of-continuity-function-machine?
Let's see here -- put this IN -- and here it comes OUT -- It says,
"The Means
To An End Is Unjustified." Hmm. That sounds like a misprint. Let's make
an adjustment to the fine tuning knob in the back, here and see... Or, now it
says,
"In the End, the Means Is Its Own Justification." Now, that's a little
better, maybe here... alternatively,
"That The Means Is Just-As-Fine, Never
Ends." There we go. That's the ticket!
To demonstrate this in action, we have +F of April 2013 saying that we're still
against the Newmass, and then we have +F of April 2012 saying We
accept the Newmass. He's
against the Newmass in 2013 and he's
in favor
of the Newmass in 2012, but he doesn't retract being in favor, neither does
he retract being against the Newmass. That's why he can say "I am against
the Council!" --
as long as you see that in light of "I accept the Council." He
can also say, "I accept the Council"
as long as you understand it in the light
of Tradition! In his mind, he's not contradicting himself, because he has to
believe both. That's why you've got the
double tongue.
This kind of thinking is death to souls.
I would also note: That like most SSPX priests these days, Our Priest did not mention the cost of such a recognition by modernist Rome.
[He didn't want to sound negative!]
He did not speak of the dangers that such a compromise of the faith would have.
[Non Nobis Negationis!!]
He did not mention how the Doctrinal Counter Offer of April 15, 2012 would destroy all the SSPX had stood for.
[Non Nobis Negationis!!]
He only said that many of the 200 Bishops said they would like the SSPX to train their seminarians.
["Let's look at the bright side!"]
He did not say it, but he implied that this was a great thing!
[It's all a matter of how you look at it!]
See above!
Mary Help of Christians…PRAY FOR US!
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