Author Topic: Seminarian seeks benefactors (Read 2707 times)

ilpadrino · « **on:** January 27, 2016, 08:40:30 PM »

Dear friends,

With the permission of Matthew, I post this topic.

As some may already know, I am a former SSPX seminarian and I posted in the "Introduction" forum back in the Fall, wherein I asked for prayers to aid in my discernment. No doubt thanks in part to your generous response, I am back to pursuing my vocation as a cleric and am soon to go to France to St. Louis de Montfort Seminary of Bishop Faure.

This post is to say that I am currently seeking benefactors for spiritual support (first and foremost) and also to help with the expenses involved. Anything is welcome, and perhaps this could be a Lenten alms for you(?).

If you would like to help, please send me a private message. Please know of my prayers for all of my benefactors, and thank you for your time. God bless!

Pilar · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:27:05 PM »

Quote from: ilpadrino

Dear friends,

With the permission of Matthew, I post this topic.

As some may already know, I am a former SSPX seminarian and I posted in the "Introduction" forum back in the Fall, wherein I asked for prayers to aid in my discernment. No doubt thanks in part to your generous response, I am back to pursuing my vocation as a cleric and am soon to go to France to St. Louis de Montfort Seminary of Bishop Faure.

This post is to say that I am currently seeking benefactors for spiritual support (first and foremost) and also to help with the expenses involved. Anything is welcome, and perhaps this could be a Lenten alms for you(?).

If you would like to help, please send me a private message. Please know of my prayers for all of my benefactors, and thank you for your time. God bless!

I missed your introduction information, can you summarize for me and anyone else who doesn't know you? The idea to help for Lenten alms is a good one. I will be including your intentions in my prayers.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:10:37 AM »

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I'm an ex-SSPX seminarian and am discerning the possibility of returning to formation, either in Boston, KY or in Angers, France.

I am a convert from the Novus Ordo (and the only one in my family), and was a N.O. seminarian for 2 years before leaving on my own. Having discerned that I still had a vocations, I went to the SSPX because of it's then-solid position regarding the Crisis in the Church. I eventually entered the seminary for them and was there for 4 years, then asked/told to take a year off in a priory, which turned out to be an ejection year. The reasons given to me were very weak, even in the opinions of priests and lay folk to whom I've told the story to. (I'm willing to relay them via PM if you're interested, as I don't consider it a type of material to post ad multitudinem.

I realize now that members of the SSPX (especially it's seminarians and brothers living in the seminary) have been and are still being hoodwinked if not out-right deceived by the authorities thereof.

I would ask the prayers and sacrifices of all who read my post for the intentions of clarity in discernment, especially in October when I will be going on retreat. Thank you and God bless! :gandalf:

McCork · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2016, 03:32:16 AM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

Quote from: ilpadrino
I'm an ex-SSPX seminarian and am discerning the possibility of returning to formation, either in Boston, KY or in Angers, France.

I am a convert from the Novus Ordo (and the only one in my family), and was a N.O. seminarian for 2 years before leaving on my own. Having discerned that I still had a vocations, I went to the SSPX because of it's then-solid position regarding the Crisis in the Church. I eventually entered the seminary for them and was there for 4 years, then asked/told to take a year off in a priory, which turned out to be an ejection year. The reasons given to me were very weak, even in the opinions of priests and lay folk to whom I've told the story to. (I'm willing to relay them via PM if you're interested, as I don't consider it a type of material to post ad multitudinem.

I realize now that members of the SSPX (especially it's seminarians and brothers living in the seminary) have been and are still being hoodwinked if not out-right deceived by the authorities thereof.

I would ask the prayers and sacrifices of all who read my post for the intentions of clarity in discernment, especially in October when I will be going on retreat. Thank you and God bless! :gandalf:

Like a mother of a newborn, the first thing you should be concerned with is baptism. The SSPX assumes validity of the Novus Ordo baptisms when they should be doubting them by default. The new rite of baptism in 1971 does not ensure a valid baptism because it does not ensure the proper form be followed. In each individual case, it may or may not have been done properly, thus the doubt by default.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2016, 07:52:04 AM »

Yes, the "ejection year" is a common SSPX practice. Usually it has nothing to do with one's fitness for the vocation but rather their perception that one might be a little bit of an independent thinker and therefore potentially a troublemaker down the road.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2016, 07:55:47 AM »

Quote from: McCork

Quote from: MaterDominici
Quote from: ilpadrino
I'm an ex-SSPX seminarian and am discerning the possibility of returning to formation, either in Boston, KY or in Angers, France.

I am a convert from the Novus Ordo (and the only one in my family), and was a N.O. seminarian for 2 years before leaving on my own. Having discerned that I still had a vocations, I went to the SSPX because of it's then-solid position regarding the Crisis in the Church. I eventually entered the seminary for them and was there for 4 years, then asked/told to take a year off in a priory, which turned out to be an ejection year. The reasons given to me were very weak, even in the opinions of priests and lay folk to whom I've told the story to. (I'm willing to relay them via PM if you're interested, as I don't consider it a type of material to post ad multitudinem.

I realize now that members of the SSPX (especially it's seminarians and brothers living in the seminary) have been and are still being hoodwinked if not out-right deceived by the authorities thereof.

I would ask the prayers and sacrifices of all who read my post for the intentions of clarity in discernment, especially in October when I will be going on retreat. Thank you and God bless! :gandalf:

Like a mother of a newborn, the first thing you should be concerned with is baptism. The SSPX assumes validity of the Novus Ordo baptisms when they should be doubting them by default. The new rite of baptism in 1971 does not ensure a valid baptism because it does not ensure the proper form be followed. In each individual case, it may or may not have been done properly, thus the doubt by default.

If you consider the form itself to be valid, then whether or not it was actually followed constitutes a negative doubt ... absent any concrete reasons to believe otherwise. Given the importance of Baptism (which ironically you deny, McCork), however, if one believes that there was a widespread trend to take liberties with the form, a conditional Baptism might still be in order. I think that there's a threshold of negative doubt where it might justify conditional Baptism. It's on those very grounds that for many years the SSPX would administer conditional confirmation and conditional ordination.

ilpadrino · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2016, 04:40:57 PM »

I'm not sure if my post is the place to discuss potentially valid/invalid sacraments. The post had a specific purpose, so please don't derail it. Feel free to contact me via PM to discuss other issues.

McCork · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2016, 06:07:54 PM »

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I'm not sure if my post is the place to discuss potentially valid/invalid sacraments. The post had a specific purpose, so please don't derail it. Feel free to contact me via PM to discuss other issues.

Sorry, I thought that better than money was this issue. I created a new topic in the Crisis section to continue what I started here.

ilpadrino · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2016, 07:15:45 AM »

An update to all concerned:

I've received a departure date, and it is February 18. Please keep me in your prayers, and thank you for all you have contributed in both the spiritual and temporal gifts thus far. May Our Lady of Compassion richly reward you and accompany you for a very profitable Lent.

A special thank you to all who have contributed!

If anyone still wishes to do so, please PM me. God bless!