It's not that simple.

Principles are important. When the principles change, the behavior will eventually change as well. Just because the SSPX has 4 decades of positive inertia doesn't mean they haven't recently switched their direction for the worse.

Compromise with evil is NEVER a good thing. Vatican II is noxious and must be 100% avoided. It is the greatest disaster to befall the Church -- but Bp. Fellay is starting to warm up to it a bit. At least more than he should.

No one said that everyone and everything in the neo-SSPX is evil. Just that we can't happily support them any longer. I don't believe in their new mission at all.

They are making a practical accord with MODERNIST Rome, which +ABL was against. And right he should have been against it -- it would be a foolish move.

We all want Rome to convert back to Tradition. We all love Rome. But right now Rome is poisonous and noxious to the Faith, so we must sadly keep our distance.

This is how +ABL felt, right up till his death. We love Rome, but we must stay away until she corrects Her errors and returns to the one True Faith, which is inherently Traditional.

Viva Cristo Rey said:

The SSPX isn't perfect. It has its share of scandals and problems like everything else.
There is so much good and holiness that has come from the SSPX. Let's discuss the good.

Our short time attending Mass at local SSPX was a blessing from God. It also gave our former pastor to overcome his persecution from the NO diocese. Thanks to SSPX we learned so much about the Catholic faith that we didn't learn from the novus ordo. We had access to so many Catholic books too. We were blessed to have Father Fahnestock to teach us about the Battle of Lempanto. We learned so much from Father Robinson too.

There are times when I was against the SSPX joining with Rome.
Maybe we are wrong. I don't know. I'm just a sinner. Only God knows. Let's pray that the SSPX will continue to keep the faith when they join Rome. Isn't being under Rome is what makes us Catholic?
The main thing is to love, know and serve God. As Catholics, we offer our sufferings up to God.


Hey, he wasn't such a bad guy?



You wouldn't hold a little Narcissistic personality disorder, love of coins and a case of worms against the guy... would you?

Are you aware, Viva, of the treatment SSPX continues to mete out to + Williamson. Their actions are disgraceful in the true sense of the word. And they welcomed the Summorum Pontificuм, which implies that the Novus Ordo and the true Sacrifice are of equal value. They are caving in to the heresy of  modernism.  

Back in 1987
Quoting Abp Lefebvre

BISHOP WILLIAMSON QUOTES ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE ON PRAYING FOR A PERSONAL PRELATURE FROM ROME:


(Just change the name Gagnon to Pozzo, and it could be written now)


Ridgefield Seminary Letters to Friends and Benefactors

December 1987



http://www.leofec.com/bishop-williamson/108.html



But will the Pope be able to settle the question of the Mass and the Society as several things indicate he would like to do? … how fierce the opposition will be in the Roman Curia and amongst the world's bishops, to any papal approval of the Tridentine Mass or of the Society associated with it.



Here is what Archbishop Lefebvre wrote to me in a letter dated November 20: "I think that as his visit continues, Cardinal Gagnon is more and more convinced that we are right to be doing what we are doing. However, if his visit is useful, it is not the answer.



"We shall have to find a form of institution to protect us from the Roman Curia and the diocesan chanceries. In Rome we shall need a secretariat or commission, composed of members agreeing with what we think and do, to help the Society set itself up with three bishops chosen from within the Society, to form like an "Armed Services' Vicariat", with all the powers necessary to continue our work, independently of alI other  bishops. A way must be found for all Traditional movements and initiatives to normalize their juridical situation so that they can continue to ask for the help of our own bishops.


"The whole thing is to know whether Rome, that is to say the Pope, will have the courage, despite the howling set up by the bishops and the Roman Curia, to grant us such a degree of independence. There are several Cardinals who will support Cardinal Gagnon. But it will not be easy. Already the episcopates are getting together to prevent a solution.

"In any case, if they do not give me the authorization to consecrate bishops, 1 shall do it without authorization. This is the most practical and pressing point. Let us continue to pray, especially to Our Lady of Fatima."

The solution here envisaged by Archbishop Lefebvre, a personal prelature, like an Army Vicariat for instance, is from the point of view of Canon Law a very flexible formula and may be the best suited to the needs of the situation. Whereas a local bishop has jurisdiction over Catholics in a given locality, or geographical diocese, a personal prelate has jurisdiction by his person over Catholics in some way connected to him. Thus an Army Vicar has in person direct jurisdiction over army chaplains or priests and through them over Catholic servicemen and their families attached to that army.


Thus Monsignor Lefebvre or his successor would have full powers of a diocesan bishop firstly over the Society priests and their faithful, but also over priests and faithful outside the Society who would resort to him because of their attachment to the Traditional rite of Mass. He would be in effect an alternative Ordinary or bishop for all such Traditional priests and faithful, without their necessarily having to quit the diocese to which canonically they normally belong. Such a solution has the great advantage of largely corresponding to an already existing and honest state of affairs. Will it come about? That depends upon God's grace and men's free will. It is, as always, and more than ever, a question of prayer.


A great way to pray is to do the Exercises of St. Ignatius for five days. …


Most sincerely yours in His service,


Fr. Richard Williamson

And:

E)  ABL Rejected the Modernist  "Professio fidei" (the "profession of faith") that +Fellay and company will have to sign.

I see a lot of good in the SSPX.

It's important to see and work for some link with the Roman authorities;  and, I think that is what the Society is doing.  The Society has a good system in place to produce good priests who minister to the faithful.  They offer good schools and chapels across the nation.

Now independent chapels vary a great deal.  Many have disgruntled ex-SSPX priests whose only song is a criticism of the Conciliar Church or see covetous Jєωs in every shadow.


/flame on!


lol

I agree with some of your points, but independent chapels vary because some of them have priests with dubious orders.