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SECRET NOTE OF MENZINGEN
« on: December 08, 2014, 08:51:36 AM »
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    Confidential internal memo from General House
    Dissemination: priests members
    Date: November 26, 2014
    Note regarding a meeting of members of the fraternity with Cardinal Brandmüller.

    In early December 2014, the first of the meetings must take place between members of the fraternity and the bishops will take place. . These interviews proposed by the Commission Ecclesia Dei after the meeting between Bishop Fellay and Cardinal Müller on Tuesday, September 23, 2014 in Rome, are informal meetings; they must develop without mediation or advertising. As announced in the internal note of the General House to priests the October 2, 2014, the choice of locations and partners is left to the initiative of the Fraternity.

    The aim of the General House is to raise awareness of the positions of the fraternity to the prelates who are willing and able to hear our arguments.

    Cardinal Brandmüller born in Germany on January 5, 1929, he was consecrated bishop in November 2010 and made a cardinal the following week, on November 20, 2010. He is president emeritus of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences. He is one of the co-authors of the work Staying in the truth of Christ, which refutes the thesis heterodox Cardinal Walter Kasper during the consistory of February 20, 2014. See DICI n ° 301 of 20/09/14.
    http://www.dici.org/docuмents/demeurer-dans-la-verite-du-christ-extraits/

    This meeting will be held in German language Zaitzkofen; will be present Mons. Fellay, the Schmidberger, Frey, Udressy, Wuffloud, Gaudron and Kasteleiner Padres. They will meet with Cardinal Brandmüller.

    The issue to be addressed will be the special status of Vatican II - the authority of their docuмents, their interpretation and atypical nature of "pastoral council".

    This note is an internal information confidential, not to be disseminated under any circuмstances. The General House shall, if necessary, external communication a statement.




    http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.mx/2014/12/nota-confidencial-de-menzingen-sobre.html


    Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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    SECRET NOTE OF MENZINGEN
    « Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 09:26:37 PM »
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  • INTERESTING!!!


    The Vatican Insider has this:

    http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/ricerca/?q=SSPX

       MARCO TOSATTI - Vatican Insider
    Nov 29, 2014 ... The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) has sent an answer to the Holy See about the “ doctrinal preamble” which could form the basis for a ...
    vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/marco-tosatti/...//Marco%20Tosatti/


    You can see the news in the search (second news item) but the link is not accessible.
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    SECRET NOTE OF MENZINGEN
    « Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 10:03:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

    INTERESTING!!!


    The Vatican Insider has this:

    http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/ricerca/?q=SSPX

       MARCO TOSATTI - Vatican Insider
    Nov 29, 2014 ... The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) has sent an answer to the Holy See about the “ doctrinal preamble” which could form the basis for a ...
    vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/marco-tosatti/...//Marco%20Tosatti/


    You can see the news in the search (second news item) but the link is not accessible.


    If you keep clicking the links you will see that the article is from April of 2012.

    Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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    « Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 11:53:15 PM »
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    Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

    INTERESTING!!!


    The Vatican Insider has this:

    http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/ricerca/?q=SSPX

       MARCO TOSATTI - Vatican Insider
    Nov 29, 2014 ... The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) has sent an answer to the Holy See about the “ doctrinal preamble” which could form the basis for a ...
    vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/marco-tosatti/...//Marco%20Tosatti/


    You can see the news in the search (second news item) but the link is not accessible.


    If you keep clicking the links you will see that the article is from April of 2012.


    I do searches often on Vatican Insider and the articles are on Chronological order from newest to oldest. All the other articles on that search open with no problem, only the Nov. 29th takes you to 2012 articles. The Vatican Insider is blocking it. Check the other articles.

    http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/ricerca/?q=SSPX
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    (St. Clement Mary Hofbauer)

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    « Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 06:51:53 AM »
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  • Quote from: Lepanto Again
    You People still falling for this sensationalism?



    A leaked internal correspondence regarding the on-going talks with Rome of the leadership of the SSPX could hardly be dismissed as simply "sensationalism".
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #5 on: December 19, 2014, 10:33:28 AM »
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  • The meeting with Cardinal Brandmuller took place on December 5, 2014. Here is the SSPX version:

    http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/cardinal-brandmuller-visits-sspxs-seminary-5823
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    « Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 12:21:19 PM »
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  • This meeting was a follow-up of the September 23, 2014 meeting in Rome, during which all had agreed to pursue the doctrinal discussions “in a broader, less formal framework than in the previous discussions.” (see DICI #302, Oct. 10, 2014). The theme was the Council and its magisterial authority.


    Nothing to see here folks. Keep it moving.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...