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Offline JmJ2cents

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Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2017, 05:29:52 PM »
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    • I want to thank Mr. Sean Johnson because he has inspired me in this fight.  If one of my sons turns out to be a fighter like him I will be happy! God Bless you Sean for fighting the good fight even though it seems like very few are helping.  Onward!  :applause:
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #16 on: September 11, 2017, 12:51:38 PM »
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    • I agree with an earlier reply.  There needs to be an honest assessment, even from Mr. Johnson.  He proved there are not many reading (or agree) with everything he writes.  The resistance should not be at "fault" for his lack of readership.  It is a human behavior and perhaps God is telling him something.

    Honestly, it seems Mr. Johnson is psychological having an open ruse with everyone.  I mean, reading his recent poem about himself portrayed as a "victim" then acts with a dominate complex gives me compassion really to help him...not to fall into his ruse.  If I remember correctly, didn't he do this two or three other times telling the world he is "closing" down, draws a pity, then reopens again?  There is a pattern here.

    Lets get past this.  It's true Mr. Johnson can do what he wants but there is a real fight in tradition with many (bishop fellay and cohort) trying to steal the limelight away from our Lord.  We need to focus our energy on the real enemy against the church than these petty skirmishes of who's "important".
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #17 on: September 11, 2017, 01:12:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: ignatius on September 11, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
    I agree with an earlier reply.  There needs to be an honest assessment, even from Mr. Johnson.  He proved there are not many reading (or agree) with everything he writes.  The resistance should not be at "fault" for his lack of readership.  It is a human behavior and perhaps God is telling him something.

    Honestly, it seems Mr. Johnson is psychological having an open ruse with everyone.  I mean, reading his recent poem about himself portrayed as a "victim" then acts with a dominate complex gives me compassion really to help him...not to fall into his ruse.  If I remember correctly, didn't he do this two or three other times telling the world he is "closing" down, draws a pity, then reopens again?  There is a pattern here.

    Lets get past this.  It's true Mr. Johnson can do what he wants but there is a real fight in tradition with many (bishop fellay and cohort) trying to steal the limelight away from our Lord.  We need to focus our energy on the real enemy against the church than these petty skirmishes of who's "important".

    The thought, "Get over yourself." comes to mind while reading his "Farewell... psyche!"
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #18 on: September 11, 2017, 02:30:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: JPaul on September 11, 2017, 02:22:08 PM
    Perhaps, the character of this poem points to some of the reasons why this resistance so called is not catching fire.
    A true and serious counter revolution needs deadly serious men to lead it, and deadly serious men to follow. Men who are mature, steadfast, and seasoned enough to self examine and correct there own attitudes and approaches.
    Chattering about the SSPX and its spinoffs and its foibles will accomplish nothing to advance the cause of the embattled Church.

    It's folly. Why? Because it is based on the assumption that a bunch of hoodlums are the Catholic hierarchy, which only gives thieves the appearance of validity and legitimacy.

    They're irrelevant to the Catholic faith. May as well "counter" the Eastern Schismatics, the Old Catholics, the Anglicans, Rastafarians, whatever.

    If it weren't so damnably tragic it would make a great sitcom.
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #19 on: September 11, 2017, 02:49:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: JPaul on September 11, 2017, 02:22:08 PM
    Perhaps, the character of this poem points to some of the reasons why this resistance so called is not catching fire.
    A true and serious counter revolution needs deadly serious men to lead it, and deadly serious men to follow. Men who are mature, steadfast, and seasoned enough to self examine and correct there own attitudes and approaches.
    Chattering about the SSPX and its spinoffs and its foibles will accomplish nothing to advance the cause of the embattled Church.

    Do you have any good suggestions about how to go about advancing the cause of the embattled Church? A lot of Resistance trads do pay attention to what is going on with the SSPX these days (and for good reason, IMO), but I would think that there's plenty of room for those who prefer not to focus on the SSPX, but want to focus on other issues instead. 
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 03:12:18 PM »
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    • I find that poem disgusting. And I find Mr. Johnsons behaviour egotistical and self-indulgent. There seems to be some kind of cult that has grown up around this person who is not really that important in the grander scheme of things and has been guilty of totally over-the-top behaviour.
     
    The emperor has NO CLOTHES my friends!

    I for one would be happy to hear less of him and perhaps his lack of readership will lead him to eat some humble pie.



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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #21 on: September 11, 2017, 03:14:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: JPaul on September 11, 2017, 02:22:08 PM
    Perhaps, the character of this poem points to some of the reasons why this resistance so called is not catching fire.
    A true and serious counter revolution needs deadly serious men to lead it, and deadly serious men to follow. Men who are mature, steadfast, and seasoned enough to self examine and correct there own attitudes and approaches.
    Chattering about the SSPX and its spinoffs and its foibles will accomplish nothing to advance the cause of the embattled Church.

    A very sound analysis JPaul.
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #22 on: September 11, 2017, 03:17:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 11, 2017, 02:49:08 PM
    Do you have any good suggestions about how to go about advancing the cause of the embattled Church? A lot of Resistance trads do pay attention to what is going on with the SSPX these days (and for good reason, IMO), but I would think that there's plenty of room for those who prefer not to focus on the SSPX, but want to focus on other issues instead.


    To add my two cents here, we could start with a love of the truth. And seek it out. No matter the human respect we may lose.

    This crises is a purification, and only those soldiers truly brave will be left standing. Sacrifices for the cause are what is necessary.

    It is an attitude more than anything else. Mr. Johnson certainly has a fighting spirit, but is totally unwilling to correct himself. Humility is the foundation of all virtues, and while NONE of us are perfect therein, we can try and make an effort, which is what God wants the most.
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #23 on: September 11, 2017, 03:54:26 PM »
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    • I only know the name of Sean Johnson because of a few items that Matthew has posted on his behalf.  Other than this, I have no idea who he is.  But if he is expecting a grassroots movement to start because of a blog, he needs to temper his expectations.  How many catholics aren't on the internet much?  A lot.  True movements require a leader who can be seen, talked to, and heard - in person.  The internet is a great tool, but it can't replace human interaction.  Politicians know this, that's why they always to go rallys and MEET people.  If Sean wants to start a movement, he needs to become a speaker at catholic conferences. 
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 04:00:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: kiwiboy on September 11, 2017, 03:17:34 PM


    To add my two cents here, we could start with a love of the truth. And seek it out. No matter the human respect we may lose.

    This crises is a purification, and only those soldiers truly brave will be left standing. Sacrifices for the cause are what is necessary.

    It is an attitude more than anything else. Mr. Johnson certainly has a fighting spirit, but is totally unwilling to correct himself. Humility is the foundation of all virtues, and while NONE of us are perfect therein, we can try and make an effort, which is what God wants the most.

    Well, yes, a love of truth is so important, but without charity, it is nothing.

    IMO, Sean Johnson should just take a step back and re-assess. He needn't throw in the towel.

    Just a few thoughts...and perhaps a subject for another thread:

    I would like to see suggestions on how to help the embattled Church from JPaul or anyone else. I think it's a good point to bring up. For a long time, the SSPX was the pretty much the only place a trad could go for the Mass and sacraments, and I think that it's unfortunate that there aren't many alternatives now. The SSPX pretty much had a monopoly, and now the results of this are obvious. That may be why Bishop Williamson doesn't want to have such a tightly controlled group of Resistance people, so as to not have the same resulting problem.
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #25 on: September 11, 2017, 04:04:45 PM »
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    • Sorry if I did not make myself clear, but my suggestion is concrete. It is that people actively start to love the truth, starting with themselves. The Church is embattled because people don't love the Truth enough in tradition. They prefer lies, and that is why we have been punished and will continue to be punished, because we keep repeating the same old errors over and over, and don't listen to Our Lord and Our Lady.
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #26 on: September 11, 2017, 04:46:17 PM »
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    • So many of these responders sound threatened by a BLOG, :facepalm: for Pete's sake, anyone can start a blog.  If you like what a person writes then subscribe, if not, just ignore it.

    Or better yet, stop throwing stones and start your own blog.
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    « Reply #27 on: September 11, 2017, 11:12:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marlelar on September 11, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
    So many of these responders sound threatened by a BLOG, :facepalm: for Pete's sake, anyone can start a blog.  If you like what a person writes then subscribe, if not, just ignore it.

    Or better yet, stop throwing stones and start your own blog.
    Threatened?

    "Blogophobes!"
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #28 on: September 12, 2017, 09:43:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Marlelar on September 11, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
    So many of these responders sound threatened by a BLOG, :facepalm: for Pete's sake, anyone can start a blog.  If you like what a person writes then subscribe, if not, just ignore it.

    Or better yet, stop throwing stones and start your own blog.

    Well I for one have practiced what I preached and I never followed Mr. Johnsons blog, for the reason you mentioned.

    I was happy that he seemed to doing a service to us all by winding it down. Only to discover that pride got the better of him.
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    Re: Sean Johnson throws in the towel
    « Reply #29 on: September 12, 2017, 02:09:08 PM »
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    • Who the hell was he, anyway?
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