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Offline Jr1991

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Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2022, 09:11:16 PM »
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  • As I've said before, this attitude suggests a complete change in mindset about the crisis, from believing this to be an aberration, a temporary (even if prolonnged) abnormality that will be "fixed" by God, at which point all of the churches and seminaries and buildings currently appropriated by the Concliarists will be restored to Catholic use.  In each city in the US you'll find one or two, and in the larger ones dozens of churches, many of which cannot be reproduced today for any price.  There's no need for a $50,000,000 "national" seminary when each diocese already has a fine seminary building or even campus, some of which put this new SSPX complex to shame.  This speaks to the fact that the SSPX view this aberrant situation in the Church as the "new normal", where you would have the Tridentine Mass as the "extraordinary rite" alongside the Novus Ordo.

    My point about the homes, by the way, was not that SSPX should be doing that, just by way of comparison to the resources that would be drained from the faithful for these absurd projects.  These are about people's egos, and we might as well name the seminary St. Bernard's Seminary in anticipation of the eventual canonization.

    Yep couldn't agree more. 

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #46 on: November 19, 2022, 09:14:51 PM »
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  • Take a look at the latest behemoth. If this project gets off the ground, it will set back the faithful millions.






    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #47 on: November 20, 2022, 08:42:00 AM »
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  • It would be nice if others would upload these videos onto other platforms, before the Google police delete the whole series.

    There's no way Part 4 survives (and will probably sink the rest).
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #48 on: November 20, 2022, 09:30:46 AM »
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  • It would be nice if others would upload these videos onto other platforms, before the Google police delete the whole series.

    There's no way Part 4 survives (and will probably sink the rest).
    Yay! Sean is back!

    Linked on GAB. :cowboy:

    Attempt to archive the video here was unsuccessful:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20221120153130/https://accounts.google.com/v3/signin/identifier?dsh=S1593854181%3A1668958290526732&continue=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fsignin%3Faction_handle_signin%3Dtrue%26app%3Ddesktop%26hl%3Den%26next%3D%252Fsignin_passive%26feature%3Dpassive&hl=en&passive=true&service=youtube&uilel=3&flowName=GlifWebSignIn&flowEntry=ServiceLogin&ifkv=ARgdvAsI5v9O5ZWfwF9kL04BW_Qa6f2-OJk9IEWVMRyKecDbkBquQRAKnq8IkO_OmStihSOiHKxzLQ

    In this instance, perhaps due to (((Joogle/JewTube))):



    This is an increasing problem. archive.org is disappearing and blocking "antisemites" and "antisemitic" evidence.

    Successfully archived here (for now): https://archive.ph/oY0Kd

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #49 on: November 20, 2022, 09:48:43 AM »
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  • As best I can tell, the (((censors))) have not yet caught up to your Parts 2, 3, and 4, hence archived on the Wayback Machine. They can be called up by searching for the original JєωTube URLs.

    Part 4 is here: https://web.archive.org/web/20221120154526/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae-NfFCx008&feature=youtu.be

    Also, Parts 1-4 are now archived on archive.is



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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #50 on: November 20, 2022, 01:35:38 PM »
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  • Building $50 million monuments does NOT meet that goal. That suggests a radically different goal (impressing The World, impressing the Modernists in Rome, etc.)

    This is why I think the product of that $50mil greatly failed to meet expectations. I think it is a sort of message or reward for wrong intentions.

    There really are so many traditional catholics struggling financially. Maybe that is what will make them saints, but how many will be lost through neglect and no affordable means of transportation to the sacraments?


    My understanding is that the national SSPX gives these local chapels a mortgage of about five years. Forget a 30-year mortgage you get from a banker; they (the national SSPX) want their money back quickly. This was said at an SSPX fundraiser that I attended years ago. I don't know if it's true; maybe others have better information.
    I'm fine with that. I think a 5 year limit is prudent these days, and I think it is best to not buy something until you can afford it. 5 years just helps you afford it more easily.

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    Offline Meg

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #51 on: November 20, 2022, 01:47:52 PM »
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  • As great is it would be for the SSPX to get into the charity business, and start giving brand-new homes to poor people, a similar argument could be made that even if they stuck to building and maintaining CHAPELS, the money could be better spent.

    I know that one of those $250,000 family homes you quote could buy PLENTY of chapel for many places. Our "chapel" here is a metal warehouse building 1,200 square feet, 12 foot roof. Even when you include assembly, putting in electrical/plumbing, air conditioning, and misc. "finishing", you could get a lot of chapel space for $100,000.

    Long story short, the SSPX was, and should be, in the "mission chapel" or "lifeboat" business. Not building parish CHURCHES, monuments, or anything like that. They should be all about building infrastructure for priests to travel around, stay here or there, say Mass here or there (some chapels larger, some smaller) and serving as many Faithful in the United States as possible. You know, saving souls and keeping the Faith alive. Transmitting the Faith to the next generation via Traditional doctrine, Mass, and sacraments. The only goal of +ABL.

    Building $50 million monuments does NOT meet that goal. That suggests a radically different goal (impressing The World, impressing the Modernists in Rome, etc.)

    Solving the Crisis in the Church was only ever a nice "extra". If the SSPX could have a hand in it, then great. But all THEY have to do (all WE have to do) is do our duty, keep the Faith, maintain hope, and save our souls. Solving the Crisis is in God's hands alone. He MIGHT make use of us -- but let's put it this way: He can best make use of us if we are faithful to HIM FIRST and put our TRUST IN HIM, not in man, not in marketing corporations, not in numbers, not in money.

    So true!

    I too would like to see more infrastructure for priests to travel around, though it's not an easy life for a priest, but I would support that sort of effort with what little money that I have - so that the faithful can have access to the sacraments, especially in my area where there's no TLM. That's what is so important today. Not fancy buildings, though I love beautiful Catholic churches as much as anyone. This type of model more resembles the SSPX of old - not the new SSPX corporate model of course - though there are still some SSPX mission chapels that are quite small and humble.

    It doesn't have to be the SSPX that does this, though. I would like to see more Resistance priests (or any other group of validly ordained traditional priests), who could travel around to offer the sacraments - though I understand that there are very few (almost none) Resistance priests in the U.S.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #52 on: November 20, 2022, 01:49:59 PM »
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  • Looking for part 5 but not seeing it.  Am I missing it somehow?


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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #53 on: November 20, 2022, 02:23:49 PM »
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  • Our "chapel" here is a metal warehouse building 1,200 square feet, 12 foot roof.
    The CMRI mission that I attend in South Carolina is similar to that, only even smaller. It's a small steel building that was originally used as a barn/shed (even has a garage door that comes in handy for quickly moving furniture out when we have chapel cleanup days), and it can seat about 25 people. Before acquiring the steel building, a tent was used as a makeshift chapel on the property. Yet we make do with the building because we're ultimately there for the holy sacrifice of the Mass, and it is sufficient for that.

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #54 on: November 20, 2022, 02:28:22 PM »
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  • So true!

    I too would like to see more infrastructure for priests to travel around, though it's not an easy life for a priest, but I would support that sort of effort with what little money that I have - so that the faithful can have access to the sacraments, especially in my area where there's no TLM. That's what is so important today. Not fancy buildings, though I love beautiful Catholic churches as much as anyone. This type of model more resembles the SSPX of old - not the new SSPX corporate model of course - though there are still some SSPX mission chapels that are quite small and humble.

    It doesn't have to be the SSPX that does this, though. I would like to see more Resistance priests (or any other group of validly ordained traditional priests), who could travel around to offer the sacraments - though I understand that there are very few (almost none) Resistance priests in the U.S.

    Or they need to, like, ordain more priests.
    One day at a time.

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #55 on: November 20, 2022, 02:28:39 PM »
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  • Looking for part 5 but not seeing it.  Am I missing it somehow?

    The 5th installment is brief, about 8 minutes, but it may be a while before I can get it uploaded (i.e., I borrowed a camcorder for the interview, and neglected to download this final segment to my computer along with the rest, so I will need to get ahold of it again).

    The contents are basically His Excellency's final comments and advice to viewers. 

    During the course of these comments, His Excellency goes into recommending Garabandal. 

    I reply that I am not a big "private revelation guy," and therefore do not have all the details about Garabandal, but note that I am aware it is controversial.  I mention that one of the main objections to its authenticity is the strange phenomenon of the seers walking backwards, doing the spider walk, etc.

    To this, His Excellency replied that in all that strange walking, not for a second is there any immodesty, and there certainly should have been, given the positions/postures the seers were in, which His Excellency took as a protection from immodesty from heaven, and evidence of authenticity.

    He then advises 15 decades o the Rosary/day, and the interview concludes.

    It may be another week before I can upload this segment.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #56 on: November 20, 2022, 04:52:38 PM »
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  • During the course of these comments, His Excellency goes into recommending Garabandal. 

    I reply that I am not a big "private revelation guy," and therefore do not have all the details about Garabandal, but note that I am aware it is controversial.  I mention that one of the main objections to its authenticity is the strange phenomenon of the seers walking backwards, doing the spider walk, etc.

    To this, His Excellency replied that in all that strange walking, not for a second is there any immodesty, and there certainly should have been, given the positions/postures the seers were in, which His Excellency took as a protection from immodesty from heaven, and evidence of authenticity.



    Commentary seen on the Internet: "There was too much of walking backwards, ‘ecstatic falls backward’, and the like.  “Backward” has always been understood as a trademark of the evil spirit.  Defenders of the Garabandal Apparitions  have been quick to point out that, during the ecstatic falls, the girls’ clothing was never disarranged immodestly.  Suffice it to say that even the devil, whose overweening pride and arrogance traps him at times in the grossest blunders, would not have made such an elementary blunder against establishing credibility for the apparitions.."

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #57 on: November 20, 2022, 05:49:03 PM »
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  • This is why I think the product of that $50mil greatly failed to meet expectations. I think it is a sort of message or reward for wrong intentions.

    There really are so many traditional catholics struggling financially. Maybe that is what will make them saints, but how many will be lost through neglect and no affordable means of transportation to the sacraments?
    I'm fine with that. I think a 5 year limit is prudent these days, and I think it is best to not buy something until you can afford it. 5 years just helps you afford it more easily.



    "Brother Giles, you need a finance man like me to teach you the esoteric arts of usury."


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #58 on: November 20, 2022, 06:14:24 PM »
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  • "Brother Giles, you need a finance man like me to teach you the esoteric arts of usury."


    Ahhhh… the Chief Rabbi of the SSPX Cabal… Member of the Europa [sic] Parliament.

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #59 on: November 20, 2022, 06:23:40 PM »
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  • "Brother Giles, you need a finance man like me to teach you the esoteric arts of usury."

    I said nothing about charging interest.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"