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Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
« on: November 17, 2022, 12:58:02 AM »
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    Please find below a YouTube link to Part 1 of an interview I conducted in St. Mary's, KS with His Excellency Bishop Richard Williamson on November 13.

    The YouTube video contains time-stamps for various subjects discussed.

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    Semper Idem,

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #1 on: November 17, 2022, 02:14:13 PM »
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    • Thank you Matthew. Thank you Sean.
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #2 on: November 17, 2022, 02:36:33 PM »
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    • When will you drop the rest?
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #3 on: November 17, 2022, 02:49:23 PM »
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    • Poor +Williamson looks like he’s exhausted at the beginning of the interview, probably jet lagged!  I hope he got to kick back in that recliner for a snooze! 😴 💤 :incense:
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #4 on: November 17, 2022, 03:25:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on November 17, 2022, 02:49:23 PM
    Poor +Williamson looks like he’s exhausted at the beginning of the interview, probably jet lagged!  I hope he got to kick back in that recliner for a snooze! 😴 💤 :incense:
    Not only the jet lag, but it was after two Masses, breakfast and a conference.
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #5 on: November 18, 2022, 09:01:01 AM »
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    • Sean seems to be dropping the parts at 1 or 2 day intervals...

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #6 on: November 18, 2022, 10:48:30 AM »
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    • I would like to see Sean address the sex scandal issues in the SSPX with +Williamson.  They can talk all they want about ++Lefebvre's defense of tradition, and the heroic steps he took to preserve sound Catholic doctrine and the the tradiional sacraments.  But with the emergence of these scandals and the obvious SSPX cover-ups, going back probably three decades, all other discussion, for the time being, would seem to take a back seat.
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #7 on: November 18, 2022, 10:56:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on November 17, 2022, 12:58:02 AM


    In viewing the first video, what seems to be an overall theme is the problem of Truth being separated from authority, with and after the Vll council. +W also outlines why +ABL sought a bishop through Rome, until he realized that Rome was not going to give him a bishop. It's important to note and to be reminded of the fact that +ABL did not pursue any kind of reconciliation with Rome after he and the four new bishops were excommunicated.

    There's an interesting article posted on the Resistance' Non-Possumus blog today. It features a video of Bishop Schneider claiming that the SSPX and +ABL always wanted to be under the control of the Holy See, but that's just not true. Where does +Schneider get this idea from? Probably the SSPX themselves, but who knows. Here the article:

    Non Possumus (nonpossumus--vcr-blogspot-com.translate.goog)

    +Schneider says at about the 5:43 minute mark:

    "They all desire, so much, and Archbishop Lefebvre the first desired deeply to be fully recognized by the holy See. This was the only desire and this desire continues and this matters. Because of the presence of this desire to be fully under the control of the Holy See, which they always had, Archbishop Lefebvre and I assume the superiors of the Society today."
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #8 on: November 18, 2022, 11:13:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on November 18, 2022, 10:56:05 AM
    In viewing the first video, what seems to be an overall theme is the problem of Truth being separated from authority, with and after the Vll council. +W also outlines why +ABL sought a bishop through Rome, until he realized that Rome was not going to give him a bishop. It's important to note and to be reminded of the fact that +ABL did not pursue any kind of reconciliation with Rome after he and the four new bishops were excommunicated.

    There's an interesting article posted on the Resistance' Non-Possumus blog today. It features a video of Bishop Schneider claiming that the SSPX and +ABL always wanted to be under the control of the Holy See, but that's just not true. Where does +Schneider get this idea from? Probably the SSPX themselves, but who knows. Here the article:

    Non Possumus (nonpossumus--vcr-blogspot-com.translate.goog)

    +Schneider says at about the 5:43 minute mark:

    "They all desire, so much, and Archbishop Lefebvre the first desired deeply to be fully recognized by the holy See. This was the only desire and this desire continues and this matters. Because of the presence of this desire to be fully under the control of the Holy See, which they always had, Archbishop Lefebvre and I assume the superiors of the Society today."

    This is more of Msgr. Schneider's incomprehension of what Msgr. Lefebvre was all about, same as Msgr. Fellay (that, or he is colluding with Menzingen to spread this lie).

    See in M. Johnson's interview (the time stamps are very helpful) beginning at 20:45 - Rome and GREC certainly knew Msgr. Lefebvre changed his posture towards Rome in 1988, once he realized they were in bad faith., and explicitly affirm that which the accordists deny (e.g., the GREC priest Fr. Michel LeLong, in the book Toward a Necessary Reconciliation, explicitly affirms the existence of Lefebvre's principle of action: No practical accord before a doctrinal resolution.  see p. 104). Only Menzingen and their apologists (Celier; Robinson, Simoulin, et al) pretend otherwise.

    It seems the advent of this interview is fortuitously (providentially?) timed to refute the silly claims of Msr. Schneider!
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #9 on: November 18, 2022, 11:49:36 AM »
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    • I gather from the two thumbs down I received from my last post that few on this forum want Sean to confront +Williamson with SSPX priestly scandals.  Just stick with "doctrine" and "truth."  Is that it?
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #10 on: November 18, 2022, 12:14:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on November 18, 2022, 11:49:36 AM
    I gather from the two thumbs down I received from my last post that few on this forum want Sean to confront +Williamson with SSPX priestly scandals.  Just stick with "doctrine" and "truth."  Is that it?

    M. Hollingsworth, I did not give you a down thumb (my account is not able to give anyone down thumbs, it seems), but it looks like there is more video to come, so perhaps they will address your issue. 

    However, as Msgr. Williamson has not been a member of the FSSPX in 10 years, I'm not sure what the point of confronting him about the recent SSPX sex abuse cases would be (and the subject would also follow as something of a non-sequitur, given that the introducton to the interview states the purpose of the interview is to discuss 10 years of the Resistance movement)?

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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #11 on: November 18, 2022, 12:25:41 PM »
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    • I don’t see +W giving much input on the sex scandals, since they’ve popped-up over the years even from his early Winona seminary days.

    As far the traditional Catholic faithful are concerned, there are two points that Bp. Williamson should expand upon:

    1. The roadmap for his SSPX Resistance.

    2. A clarification on his recent EC comments that Archbishop Vigano is carrying-on +ABL’s “Truth” battle. 
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #12 on: November 18, 2022, 12:29:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on November 18, 2022, 11:49:36 AM
    I gather from the two thumbs down I received from my last post that few on this forum want Sean to confront +Williamson with SSPX priestly scandals.  Just stick with "doctrine" and "truth."  Is that it?
    Sedevacantist chiming in here.  

    Whereas I agree that Sean should ask him about it, I definitely do not think doctrine and truth should take a back seat to it.  
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #13 on: November 18, 2022, 12:31:03 PM »
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    M. Hollingsworth, I did not give you a down thumb (my account is not able to give anyone down thumbs, it seems), but it looks like there is more video to come, so perhaps they will address your issue.
     Yes, I hope that they address the issue.  I agree that "doctrine" is very, very important.  But one of the main bodies of Catholic doctrine is the 10 Commandments.  The 7th Commandment forbids adultery.  Under that major category, I think we can include all other forms sɛҳuąƖ crimes.  So +Williamson, with his particular focus on sound doctrine, should address the breach of sound doctrine by the SSPX.
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    Re: Sean Johnson interviews Bp. Williamson in Kansas, Nov 2022
    « Reply #14 on: November 18, 2022, 12:38:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on November 18, 2022, 12:31:03 PM
    Yes, I hope that they address the issue.  I agree that "doctrine" is very, very important.  But one of the main bodies of Catholic doctrine is the 10 Commandments.  The 7th Commandment forbids adultery.  Under that major category, I think we can include all other forms sɛҳuąƖ crimes.  So +Williamson, with his particular focus on sound doctrine, should address the breach of sound doctrine by the SSPX.
    Sinning against a Commandment and teaching something against it are two separate things.
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