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Scandalous Fr. Pfluger Conferences:
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2014, 03:29:55 PM »
Quote from: Columba
Quote from: Matthew

if these notes are accurate, Fr. P is not going to say anything. It's better for these things to slip under the radar, and NOT confirm things like this. That way, even if we have notes from the conference, everyone will write it off as "hearsay" and "internet rumor" until it's too late.

He gets his conference, he influences his audience, but we don't get anything to wave around at people as we resist this march towards Modernism. Win-win for Fr. Pfluger.

A non-response by Fr. Pfluger to the request for clarification by the non-anonymous Sean Johnson should sufficiently confirm the veracity of the SSPX brother's notes.


It will slip under the radar. SSPX laity are questioning more than they were a few years ago. Blind and false obedience ensured a captive audience.

Scandalous Fr. Pfluger Conferences:
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2014, 03:56:51 PM »
Quote from: obscurus
Traditional Catholicism must transform our entire outlook on life. The petty mode of Catholicism that many promote will be ineffective in bringing the world back to Christ.  This is one reason I support Bishop Williamson because he sees the BIG PICTURE.

P.S. The Fr. Pfluger conference is just awful if true.



Very true. Bishop Williamson sees the bigger picture. Fr Pfluger, Bishop Fellay,Krah and the new society leadership do not.


Scandalous Fr. Pfluger Conferences:
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2014, 04:06:32 PM »
Quote from: Ekim
I agree with Father when he says traditionalist are ridged, locked into themselves, and always condemning.   Anyone who has traveled in Traditional circles long enough must admit that this is true.  Just last week there was a small family who had never been to the Latin Mass.  I watched the "faithful ".  Some made facial expressions that clearly indicated their displeasure with slacks and no head covering.  After Mass others walked by and just looked at the ground.  Luckily, there were a few who were very welcoming.  One kind lady even went and sat next to them, offering them missals and showing them how to use it.  Most however ignored them.  Why? Fear? Pride? Lack of charity?  HMMmmmm...

There are the "little house on the prairie" folks who openly claim that if you don't ware prairie dresses, can your own food and slaughter your own meat you are somehow too worldly.   We have intense home schoolers who, with tears rolling down their face preach your children will go to hell if you send them to school.  We have the holier then thaugh types who boldly quote papal docuмents and spew off Lain phrases to pontificate their Catholicism ....throw in the conspiracy theorist, sedevecantists, and the pious prayers, and you have a mixed bag of pickles.   We even had one person frown in disbelief that we actually let our kids join the local soccer team and little league baseball.

There is a lack of charity in Traditional circles that must be addressed.  We use to have a very good priest who was great at coralling the factions.  One time he preached that if God wanted us all to live on little house on the prairie he'd have had us born in 1857.  If that's how you choose to live your life That's fine as long as you understand that such a lifestyle may not be for everyone, nor does that Catholic Church require it. He was great at breaking down these cliques.  Once left these cliques started to return.

I believe something must be done to address this issue.  One visitor to tradition said "these people are all over the map."  However compromising with doctrine, sleeping with modernist Rome, and ignoring the danger (poisoned soup) of Vatican II is not the answer. We must continue to shout these dangers from the rooftop.   Like St Bernard said, a Catholic priest must be like a guard dog who barks at approaching danger.  If the dog stops barking, it's useless.  


I oppose cliques and whilst your post is good, I disagree. I favour smashing the cities for certain. We must support ruralism.

One allows for a new person wearing a trousers or not covering their head but if it's frequent it must be addressed.

I'm not married but do not support women in trousers or going to university. These people are not all over the map.They have common sense.

Home school is the only way and men should learn trades. The place for the girl and woman is the home.

It's not about being holier than thou but about keeping the faith, and common sense.

I would rather living out in the prairie than in the city.

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« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2014, 04:06:45 PM »
Quote from: John Grace

Very true. Bishop Williamson sees the bigger picture. Fr Pfluger, Bishop Fellay,Krah and the new society leadership do not.

I don't think we know if those men see the bigger picture. They may see the bigger picture just as well as Bishop Williamson but be enemies.

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« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2014, 04:24:03 PM »
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After Mass others walked by and just looked at the ground.  Luckily, there were a few who were very welcoming.  One kind lady even went and sat next to them, offering them missals and showing them how to use it.  Most however ignored them.  Why? Fear? Pride? Lack of charity?  HMMmmmm...


It's important the new person is welcomed. It's necessary to 'tradify' the new person. If they are praising Vatican II and wearing trousers a year later, you have a problem.

There is plenty of material to guide the new person. Plenty books, tapes, etc etc.