My name is Mary. I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years. My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY. I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues. I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties. I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.You have the entire choir of concerned comrades in your corner. No one is happy with Fr. Pfeiffer's direction these days. His desperation has become abusive toward the laity and his dreams of commandeering a renewal in the Church was misappropriated. If I remember correctly, Moses, Elias, Peter and the greats all pretty much ran away from the responsibility of saving the world--at first. No one runs head long into it unless they are mistaken in their perception of duty. God must do the calling, no one can appoint themselves. You have no idea how your post has touched me, but then, things which seem to need to be said cannot always be spoken. My prayers are heading for you and yours tonight. Rest assured it comes from a charitable understanding and not from malice. Remember, Peace in all things. Christ has this!
One of my brothers is a seminarian in Boston, KY. He has been there for a few years; he was supported during those years by my mother, who died last year. My mother was a loving mother and a dedicated Catholic. She raised us, I believe, to the best of her ability and never hesitated to help her Church, her priests, her husband, and her children. My mother died nearly one year ago and with her, the financial support she was providing OLMC ceased. My brother remains in Boston.
Without getting into too many details, I can tell you that it is my belief that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo (I don't know enough about Father Hewko to add him here) have gone extravagantly astray from Holy Mother Church. I can't say I know how this happened, but I do know that things are terribly broken in Boston and that Father Pfeiffer and his associates need prayers. My family has suffered because of a rather vast array of financial and personal insults directed our way by Father Pfeiffer and Pablo. I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way. It is my understanding that the people in my family who supported Father Pfeiffer were obedient and generous; they had faith they were being guided by a benevolent shepherd. I believe my seminarian brother has invested so much time, prayer, and energy into Boston that it seems too difficult to cut his losses. As his big sister, I often feel compelled to give him this advice: JUST LEAVE! At the same time, I know that praying that God's will be done is more powerful than anything I could ever say or do. Witnessing the fallout wrought by the Pfeiffer Compound is one of the most difficult things I've ever endured, but raging over it won't get me or my family anywhere. Prayer, prayer, prayer.
(Please note that, while I believe the most prudent course of action is to stay away from the goings-on at Boston, I will always be grateful to Father Pfeiffer for providing my mother with Mass, Holy Communion, and Extreme Unction in her last days. I'm also grateful for the Rosary and Requiem Mass provided by OLMC.)
I am generally a person of action and would love to be able to take some sort of definitive action to stop Father Pfeiffer in his tracks so that he might find his way again and lead humbly again. But I predict my words will just be brushed off. The only answer? Pull away from Father Pfeiffer. Don't allow yourself to become too invested in one or another priest. Become invested in the sacraments instead. At the risk of sounding redundant or high-handed, please pray for Father Pfeiffer, for Father Hewko, for Pablo, for my brother, for my family, and for everyone who is and has been affected by the calamitous situation in Boston.
My name is Mary. I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years. My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY. I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues. I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties. I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.Your brother, one of the nicest men I have ever met, will never be ordained while at OLMC, even if they find a legitimate bishop to do an ordination. The priests at OLMC said so. As such, there is no doubt in my mind he will become a brother, if he hasn't already.
One of my brothers is a seminarian in Boston, KY. He has been there for a few years; he was supported during those years by my mother, who died last year. My mother was a loving mother and a dedicated Catholic. She raised us, I believe, to the best of her ability and never hesitated to help her Church, her priests, her husband, and her children. My mother died nearly one year ago and with her, the financial support she was providing OLMC ceased. My brother remains in Boston.
Without getting into too many details, I can tell you that it is my belief that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo (I don't know enough about Father Hewko to add him here) have gone extravagantly astray from Holy Mother Church. I can't say I know how this happened, but I do know that things are terribly broken in Boston and that Father Pfeiffer and his associates need prayers. My family has suffered because of a rather vast array of financial and personal insults directed our way by Father Pfeiffer and Pablo. I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way. It is my understanding that the people in my family who supported Father Pfeiffer were obedient and generous; they had faith they were being guided by a benevolent shepherd. I believe my seminarian brother has invested so much time, prayer, and energy into Boston that it seems too difficult to cut his losses. As his big sister, I often feel compelled to give him this advice: JUST LEAVE! At the same time, I know that praying that God's will be done is more powerful than anything I could ever say or do. Witnessing the fallout wrought by the Pfeiffer Compound is one of the most difficult things I've ever endured, but raging over it won't get me or my family anywhere. Prayer, prayer, prayer.
(Please note that, while I believe the most prudent course of action is to stay away from the goings-on at Boston, I will always be grateful to Father Pfeiffer for providing my mother with Mass, Holy Communion, and Extreme Unction in her last days. I'm also grateful for the Rosary and Requiem Mass provided by OLMC.)
I am generally a person of action and would love to be able to take some sort of definitive action to stop Father Pfeiffer in his tracks so that he might find his way again and lead humbly again. But I predict my words will just be brushed off. The only answer? Pull away from Father Pfeiffer. Don't allow yourself to become too invested in one or another priest. Become invested in the sacraments instead. At the risk of sounding redundant or high-handed, please pray for Father Pfeiffer, for Father Hewko, for Pablo, for my brother, for my family, and for everyone who is and has been affected by the calamitous situation in Boston.
My name is Mary. I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years. My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY. I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues. I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties. I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.
One of my brothers is a seminarian in Boston, KY. He has been there for a few years; he was supported during those years by my mother, who died last year. My mother was a loving mother and a dedicated Catholic. She raised us, I believe, to the best of her ability and never hesitated to help her Church, her priests, her husband, and her children. My mother died nearly one year ago and with her, the financial support she was providing OLMC ceased. My brother remains in Boston.
Without getting into too many details, I can tell you that it is my belief that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo (I don't know enough about Father Hewko to add him here) have gone extravagantly astray from Holy Mother Church. I can't say I know how this happened, but I do know that things are terribly broken in Boston and that Father Pfeiffer and his associates need prayers. My family has suffered because of a rather vast array of financial and personal insults directed our way by Father Pfeiffer and Pablo. I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way. It is my understanding that the people in my family who supported Father Pfeiffer were obedient and generous; they had faith they were being guided by a benevolent shepherd. I believe my seminarian brother has invested so much time, prayer, and energy into Boston that it seems too difficult to cut his losses. As his big sister, I often feel compelled to give him this advice: JUST LEAVE! At the same time, I know that praying that God's will be done is more powerful than anything I could ever say or do. Witnessing the fallout wrought by the Pfeiffer Compound is one of the most difficult things I've ever endured, but raging over it won't get me or my family anywhere. Prayer, prayer, prayer.
(Please note that, while I believe the most prudent course of action is to stay away from the goings-on at Boston, I will always be grateful to Father Pfeiffer for providing my mother with Mass, Holy Communion, and Extreme Unction in her last days. I'm also grateful for the Rosary and Requiem Mass provided by OLMC.)
I am generally a person of action and would love to be able to take some sort of definitive action to stop Father Pfeiffer in his tracks so that he might find his way again and lead humbly again. But I predict my words will just be brushed off. The only answer? Pull away from Father Pfeiffer. Don't allow yourself to become too invested in one or another priest. Become invested in the sacraments instead. At the risk of sounding redundant or high-handed, please pray for Father Pfeiffer, for Father Hewko, for Pablo, for my brother, for my family, and for everyone who is and has been affected by the calamitous situation in Boston.
"... getting rid of your brother..."
I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way.
People close to him have told me that he was never quite the same after the accidental drowning at one of his summer camps.I've heard about this (perhaps another tragic case?) but it wasn't a drowning, the kid was hit by a boat propeller. Parents who complain about the dangerous camps however, are told they have no say.
People close to him have told me that he was never quite the same after the accidental drowning at one of his summer camps.I had not heard of this. Was it before or after he started the resistance? Frs Pfeiffer and Chazal were a great team in the beginning.
I had not heard of this. Was it before or after he started the resistance? Frs Pfeiffer and Chazal were a great team in the beginning.Before
My name is Mary. I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years. My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY. I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues. I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties. I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece..
How is your other brother, the CathInfo member known as ManuelChavez, doing? He's been off the radar for months.
Once again we have a case of "coming around to a position, but positioning yourself as the first/holiest/most prudent, pointing to extremists and distancing yourself from them".Matthew
Matthew
As I've said to you in private (albeit v badly phrased I'm sure) it seems to me that this is what CathInfo is all about these days.
I came here hoping to engage with people who would help me to be a better Catholic, because that is something I need greatly. I haven't found many on the site who I would trust to do so, unfortunately. I suppose I can't complain, if that puts everyone on a spiritual level with myself, but for some reason I had expected more. I guess I need to reduce my expectations of others, and perhaps increase my expectations of myself?
Today marks the one year anniversary of our mother’s death from cancer. I have been absent from Cathinfo for much of that year..
We’ve all dealt with Mom’s death in different ways. I suppose that is the way of life. For myself, I left my former job, found employment with a better company, and I do what I can to keep everyone together.
I maintained silence for my brother’s sake. He is still in Boston, now no longer a seminarian, but as a lay brother (Father Voigt told me three years ago that this would happen). I know Fathers Pfeiffer and Hewko hate what I did in my “Thirty Days in Boston”. They despise my writing here.
I tried to mend the broken connection between those in Boston and those here. I wanted peace and understanding. I wanted everyone to listen, to ask questions, to give all due consideration, with as much charity as possible. My attempts were regarded as weak and compromised by both sides of the situation.
My efforts were futile. Nothing worked. The libel and the evil came out, despite my efforts; I was a cheerleader in the midst of a squall.
In the process of the last four years, we spent much to try and improve the lives and effectiveness of the OLMC mission. I traveled there often, to cook, clean, and to be a good servant for Christ. My mother gave generously, to an extant I could not have imagined.
Now I am regarded as an enemy of the true resistance. Father will not return my calls, answer my texts or acknowledge my existence, other than by telling the seminarians that I am an enemy.
He has shut our family out, had Pablo demand money from our depleted inheritance, and threatened to call CPS on one of my sisters.
I have not written in the last year, in the hopes that I could make amends, to show him my honesty, as well as ease his fears. I have reached out, and we have still financially supported his mission and my brother’s quest for a vocation.
Recent events show that none of this outreach did anything to soften Father’s heart. I am still his enemy.
Father will never be my enemy, however, and I hope that no one here will ever view Father as such.
He is in most need of prayers, guidance and forgiveness. His masses are fully valid, and no one should hesitate to attend because of his personal issues.
I hope that Father may one day see me as an ally, despite our disagreements and past issues.
Please pray for my response of the soul of my mother. Please keep my family in your prayers.
I did not write “true resistance” to say what they are, but what they claim to be, in conjunction with what they claim that I am..
I want to follow what is exemplified in scripture:.
[15] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=18&l=15-#x) But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother. [16] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=18&l=16-#x) And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. [17] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=18&l=17-#x) And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican. (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=18&l=17-17&q=1#x)
Even with the heathen and publican, there is always hope for their redemption, and there should always be hope for forgiveness.
In no way do I consider myself more holy, prudent or the first in anything. I wrote what I have experienced from Boston and from Cathinfo, in conjunction with what my sister wrote previously, around the one year anniversary of our mother’s death.
I did not claim that all “Trads” are proud, hate mongers or sedevacantists, nor did I claim that everyone who visits Cathinfo are “bad Catholics, haters” and so on. Those would be unjust and inaccurate generalizations. These accusations promote a negative reaction and would further divide the resistance in the process.
I know that Cathinfo is not full of haters, bad Catholics or worse. There have been instances that have been less than ideal, and these situations have fueled Father’s increasing distrust of others.
I did not write “true resistance” to say what they are, but what they claim to be, in conjunction with what they claim that I am.
I wrote that I will not respond to his unjust exclusion in like manner. It is a challenge to Father Pfeiffer, to show him that there is a better way to respond than by writing off people as enemies. It is a public challenge now, because other means have failed. I want to follow what is exemplified in scripture:
[15] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=18&l=15-#x) But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. ... [17] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=18&l=17-#x) And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican. (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=18&l=17-17&q=1#x)
Even with the heathen and publican, there is always hope for their redemption, and there should always be hope for forgiveness. No one should ever be permanently marked as evil or as an enemy, or be denied the possibility of giving an explanation, or making amends for any real or perceived sleight. Doing so will only destroy any good works and will poison souls, one against the other, and for reasons that could have been avoided if only guided by God’s goodness and mercy, not by our own desires and emotions.
I hope that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo stop writing people off as enemies, that they stop the wars and put out the flames they spread in regards
to personal issues. I would also hope that the four bishops would also let go of their personal issues with Boston, if only for the sake of
those who attend the masses of OLMC. The faithful need the sacraments, such as confirmation. Denying the faithful because of the personal
problems of Father Pfeiffer and Pablo only lends credence to Father Pfeiffer’s claims (real or imagined), and helps keep those faithful
close to Boston.
There are souls at stake, and nothing should ever get in the clergy’s way in order to save souls. Their personal problems should not leech
out into the public sphere, which has happened all too many times in the last four years.
.Only if you e-mail the "unedited version" to the moderator at some point, like ManuelChavez did this morning.
So the moderator is able to capture unedited versions that preceded the final copy. Interesting.
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Ironically, that criticism would have had no basis if you had only put quotation marks around "true resistance" or had used parentheses:Exactly what I was thinking! A little punctuation goes a long way. : )
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Now I am regarded as their enemy (of the "true resistance").
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His masses are fully valid, and no one should hesitate to attend because of his personal issues.NO! NO! NO!
Fr. P: "But I believe that the lady that God sent to me this week was sent from Heaven. And I think that she knows more about the supernatural life because she slept with the Rosary."
-Nov. 2, 2014
Many innocent souls go to the New Mass every day and they will go straight to heaven when they die. Many innocent souls go to the Fraternity of St. Peter and the Ecclesia Dei Masses because they see it as better than the others or it just happens to be the Mass they prefer to go to for whatever reason. And they don’t know and they will go to heaven when they die.
Speaking of Fr. Pfeiffer quotes, I'd like to frame this one and hang it on his wall.So you are saying those who attend FSSP Masses will not go to heaven when they die??
So you are saying those who attend FSSP Masses will not go to heaven when they die??
You completely missed the point.
Fr. Pfeiffer is the creator of the dogmatic, "Red Light" position, which states that NO ONE (regardless of family situation, geography, what specific priest they have, which chapel they attend) may attend any SSPX Mass ANYWHERE, and for dogmatic reasons.
A fortiori (even more so), this argument which would apply to the FSSP since they ARE today what the SSPX WILL BE in a few more years.
If the SSPX is to be red-lighted according to Fr. Pfeiffer, where would that leave the FSSP?
See how inconsistent and contradictory he is? It's all emotion, self-serving and propaganda. Truth is only spoken when it's convenient for him; otherwise, distortions or even lies "do just as good" for him.
You completely missed the point.Fr. Pfeiffer preaches this contradictory nonsense over and over, and yet he and Fr. Hewko frantically cross the country and broadcast their opinion thinking it should be obvious to all Catholics. How dare they suggest that ignorance and modernism are greater than the power of Christ received at Mass! I can't imagine what happens to someone who causes Catholics not to receive Christ!
Fr. Pfeiffer is the creator of the dogmatic, "Red Light" position, which states that NO ONE (regardless of family situation, geography, what specific priest they have, which chapel they attend) may attend any SSPX Mass ANYWHERE, and for dogmatic reasons.
A fortiori (even more so), this argument which would apply to the FSSP since they ARE today what the SSPX WILL BE in a few more years.
If the SSPX is to be red-lighted according to Fr. Pfeiffer, where would that leave the FSSP?
See how inconsistent and contradictory he is? It's all emotion, self-serving and propaganda. Truth is only spoken when it's convenient for him; otherwise, distortions or even lies "do just as good" for him.
No, I get that Fr. Pfeiffer sometimes acts like the only valid Masses are in Boston or Equador.Equador?
But he's been telling people where to go for years. In the beginning, it was 'don't go to the Indult' then don't go to the SSPX, now it's 'don't go to the "fake" Resistance. All while simultaneously knowing people go where they want.
Do yourself a favor, Martin. Stick your finger down your throat, spit out the last vestiges of that Kool-Aid, and wake up to reality. Your tortuous labyrinth of self-inflicted confusion and navel-gazing is mind-deadening. You have misjudged the fervent Catholic posters on CathInfo, and owe them all an apology. Additionally, delete the unconscious insinuations of your own moral transcendence. Get off the fence and choose a side; and take your brother home.
That is one, very small example of the problems I have seen. The flat earth debacle is another, with members of both sides acting like monkeys fighting over some territory.Since not all the people involved in that debate do this, you are making an unfair generalization. If you wish to claim the high road, this is inappropriate.
By writing about member of both sides, I did not mean to say all members or even a majority of members of both sides in the debate. I apologize for the lack of clarity on that remark.Thank you for the clarification and apology.
By writing about member of both sides, I did not mean to say all members or even a majority of members of both sides in the debate. I apologize for the lack of clarity on that remark.God bless you, MC. It's probably time to be silent again. Unfortunate, but probaby time. God be with you and your family.