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Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
« on: January 20, 2018, 05:52:54 PM »
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  • My name is Mary.  I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years.  My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY.  I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues.  I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties.  I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.  

    One of my brothers is a seminarian in Boston, KY.  He has been there for a few years; he was supported during those years by my mother, who died last year.  My mother was a loving mother and a dedicated Catholic.  She raised us, I believe, to the best of her ability and never hesitated to help her Church, her priests, her husband, and her children.  My mother died nearly one year ago and with her, the financial support she was providing OLMC ceased.  My brother remains in Boston.

    Without getting into too many details, I can tell you that it is my belief that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo (I don't know enough about Father Hewko to add him here) have gone extravagantly astray from Holy Mother Church.  I can't say I know how this happened, but I do know that things are terribly broken in Boston and that Father Pfeiffer and his associates need prayers.  My family has suffered because of a rather vast array of financial and personal insults directed our way by Father Pfeiffer and Pablo.  I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way.  It is my understanding that the people in my family who supported Father Pfeiffer were obedient and generous; they had faith they were being guided by a benevolent shepherd.  I believe my seminarian brother has invested so much time, prayer, and energy into Boston that it seems too difficult to cut his losses.  As his big sister, I often feel compelled to give him this advice: JUST LEAVE!  At the same time, I know that praying that God's will be done is more powerful than anything I could ever say or do.  Witnessing the fallout wrought by the Pfeiffer Compound is one of the most difficult things I've ever endured, but raging over it won't get me or my family anywhere.  Prayer, prayer, prayer.  

    (Please note that, while I believe the most prudent course of action is to stay away from the goings-on at Boston, I will always be grateful to Father Pfeiffer for providing my mother with Mass, Holy Communion, and Extreme Unction in her last days.  I'm also grateful for the Rosary and Requiem Mass provided by OLMC.)

    I am generally a person of action and would love to be able to take some sort of definitive action to stop Father Pfeiffer in his tracks so that he might find his way again and lead humbly again.  But I predict my words will just be brushed off.  The only answer?  Pull away from Father Pfeiffer.  Don't allow yourself to become too invested in one or another priest.  Become invested in the sacraments instead.   At the risk of sounding redundant or high-handed, please pray for Father Pfeiffer, for Father Hewko, for Pablo, for my brother, for my family, and for everyone who is and has been affected by the calamitous situation in Boston.

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #1 on: January 20, 2018, 07:02:35 PM »
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  • I am so sorry about your situation.  I'm sure it is very difficult because your brother is still at OLMC.  You are right in that all we can do is pray for them.  Can't he see that he could be there for 10 years and get zero Orders?  It is a dead end. So sad.  God bless. 


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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #2 on: January 20, 2018, 07:35:46 PM »
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  • My name is Mary.  I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years.  My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY.  I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues.  I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties.  I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.  

    One of my brothers is a seminarian in Boston, KY.  He has been there for a few years; he was supported during those years by my mother, who died last year.  My mother was a loving mother and a dedicated Catholic.  She raised us, I believe, to the best of her ability and never hesitated to help her Church, her priests, her husband, and her children.  My mother died nearly one year ago and with her, the financial support she was providing OLMC ceased.  My brother remains in Boston.

    Without getting into too many details, I can tell you that it is my belief that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo (I don't know enough about Father Hewko to add him here) have gone extravagantly astray from Holy Mother Church.  I can't say I know how this happened, but I do know that things are terribly broken in Boston and that Father Pfeiffer and his associates need prayers.  My family has suffered because of a rather vast array of financial and personal insults directed our way by Father Pfeiffer and Pablo.  I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way.  It is my understanding that the people in my family who supported Father Pfeiffer were obedient and generous; they had faith they were being guided by a benevolent shepherd.  I believe my seminarian brother has invested so much time, prayer, and energy into Boston that it seems too difficult to cut his losses.  As his big sister, I often feel compelled to give him this advice: JUST LEAVE!  At the same time, I know that praying that God's will be done is more powerful than anything I could ever say or do.  Witnessing the fallout wrought by the Pfeiffer Compound is one of the most difficult things I've ever endured, but raging over it won't get me or my family anywhere.  Prayer, prayer, prayer.  

    (Please note that, while I believe the most prudent course of action is to stay away from the goings-on at Boston, I will always be grateful to Father Pfeiffer for providing my mother with Mass, Holy Communion, and Extreme Unction in her last days.  I'm also grateful for the Rosary and Requiem Mass provided by OLMC.)

    I am generally a person of action and would love to be able to take some sort of definitive action to stop Father Pfeiffer in his tracks so that he might find his way again and lead humbly again.  But I predict my words will just be brushed off.  The only answer?  Pull away from Father Pfeiffer.  Don't allow yourself to become too invested in one or another priest.  Become invested in the sacraments instead.   At the risk of sounding redundant or high-handed, please pray for Father Pfeiffer, for Father Hewko, for Pablo, for my brother, for my family, and for everyone who is and has been affected by the calamitous situation in Boston.
    You have the entire choir of concerned comrades in your corner.  No one is happy with Fr. Pfeiffer's direction these days.  His desperation has become abusive toward the laity and his dreams of commandeering a renewal in the Church was misappropriated.  If I remember correctly, Moses, Elias, Peter and the greats all pretty much ran away from the responsibility of saving the world--at first.  No one runs head long into it unless they are mistaken in their perception of duty.  God must do the calling, no one can appoint themselves.  You have no idea how your post has touched me, but then, things which seem to need to be said cannot always be spoken.  My prayers are heading for you and yours tonight.  Rest assured it comes from a charitable understanding and not from malice.  Remember, Peace in all things.  Christ has this! 

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #3 on: January 21, 2018, 10:33:49 AM »
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  • My name is Mary.  I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years.  My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY.  I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues.  I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties.  I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.  

    One of my brothers is a seminarian in Boston, KY.  He has been there for a few years; he was supported during those years by my mother, who died last year.  My mother was a loving mother and a dedicated Catholic.  She raised us, I believe, to the best of her ability and never hesitated to help her Church, her priests, her husband, and her children.  My mother died nearly one year ago and with her, the financial support she was providing OLMC ceased.  My brother remains in Boston.

    Without getting into too many details, I can tell you that it is my belief that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo (I don't know enough about Father Hewko to add him here) have gone extravagantly astray from Holy Mother Church.  I can't say I know how this happened, but I do know that things are terribly broken in Boston and that Father Pfeiffer and his associates need prayers.  My family has suffered because of a rather vast array of financial and personal insults directed our way by Father Pfeiffer and Pablo.  I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way.  It is my understanding that the people in my family who supported Father Pfeiffer were obedient and generous; they had faith they were being guided by a benevolent shepherd.  I believe my seminarian brother has invested so much time, prayer, and energy into Boston that it seems too difficult to cut his losses.  As his big sister, I often feel compelled to give him this advice: JUST LEAVE!  At the same time, I know that praying that God's will be done is more powerful than anything I could ever say or do.  Witnessing the fallout wrought by the Pfeiffer Compound is one of the most difficult things I've ever endured, but raging over it won't get me or my family anywhere.  Prayer, prayer, prayer.  

    (Please note that, while I believe the most prudent course of action is to stay away from the goings-on at Boston, I will always be grateful to Father Pfeiffer for providing my mother with Mass, Holy Communion, and Extreme Unction in her last days.  I'm also grateful for the Rosary and Requiem Mass provided by OLMC.)

    I am generally a person of action and would love to be able to take some sort of definitive action to stop Father Pfeiffer in his tracks so that he might find his way again and lead humbly again.  But I predict my words will just be brushed off.  The only answer?  Pull away from Father Pfeiffer.  Don't allow yourself to become too invested in one or another priest.  Become invested in the sacraments instead.   At the risk of sounding redundant or high-handed, please pray for Father Pfeiffer, for Father Hewko, for Pablo, for my brother, for my family, and for everyone who is and has been affected by the calamitous situation in Boston.
    Your brother, one of the nicest men I have ever met, will never be ordained while at OLMC, even if they find a legitimate bishop to do an ordination.  The priests at OLMC said so.  As such, there is no doubt in my mind he will become a brother, if he hasn't already.
    Fr. Pfeiffer has indeed lost his way.  No priest should ever be under the authority of a layman.  First mistake.
    I will pray for your mother, your brother, and your family.  God bless you.

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #4 on: January 21, 2018, 03:08:52 PM »
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  • My name is Mary.  I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years.  My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY.  I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues.  I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties.  I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.  

    One of my brothers is a seminarian in Boston, KY.  He has been there for a few years; he was supported during those years by my mother, who died last year.  My mother was a loving mother and a dedicated Catholic.  She raised us, I believe, to the best of her ability and never hesitated to help her Church, her priests, her husband, and her children.  My mother died nearly one year ago and with her, the financial support she was providing OLMC ceased.  My brother remains in Boston.

    Without getting into too many details, I can tell you that it is my belief that Father Pfeiffer and Pablo (I don't know enough about Father Hewko to add him here) have gone extravagantly astray from Holy Mother Church.  I can't say I know how this happened, but I do know that things are terribly broken in Boston and that Father Pfeiffer and his associates need prayers.  My family has suffered because of a rather vast array of financial and personal insults directed our way by Father Pfeiffer and Pablo.  I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way.  It is my understanding that the people in my family who supported Father Pfeiffer were obedient and generous; they had faith they were being guided by a benevolent shepherd.  I believe my seminarian brother has invested so much time, prayer, and energy into Boston that it seems too difficult to cut his losses.  As his big sister, I often feel compelled to give him this advice: JUST LEAVE!  At the same time, I know that praying that God's will be done is more powerful than anything I could ever say or do.  Witnessing the fallout wrought by the Pfeiffer Compound is one of the most difficult things I've ever endured, but raging over it won't get me or my family anywhere.  Prayer, prayer, prayer.  

    (Please note that, while I believe the most prudent course of action is to stay away from the goings-on at Boston, I will always be grateful to Father Pfeiffer for providing my mother with Mass, Holy Communion, and Extreme Unction in her last days.  I'm also grateful for the Rosary and Requiem Mass provided by OLMC.)

    I am generally a person of action and would love to be able to take some sort of definitive action to stop Father Pfeiffer in his tracks so that he might find his way again and lead humbly again.  But I predict my words will just be brushed off.  The only answer?  Pull away from Father Pfeiffer.  Don't allow yourself to become too invested in one or another priest.  Become invested in the sacraments instead.   At the risk of sounding redundant or high-handed, please pray for Father Pfeiffer, for Father Hewko, for Pablo, for my brother, for my family, and for everyone who is and has been affected by the calamitous situation in Boston.

    How is your other brother Martin (the CathInfo member known as ManuelChavez) doing?  He's been off the radar for months.
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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 12:31:33 PM »
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  • Don't worry too much Mary.
    If your late Mom's money has stopped flowing into OLMC, Pablo the Hooligan will find a pretext for getting rid of your brother soon enough. He lives off those contributions too...

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 12:42:37 PM »
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  • "... getting rid of your brother..."


    Hmm... Sounds scary   :(
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 01:06:46 PM »
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  • Is there no way he can go to Fr Chazal's seminary in the Philippines? Or France? What kind of expense would that entail, and could the resistance not manage to pool donations in order to  facilitate the move?  If he has a true vocation and so much invested, then the situation needs to be salvaged. Good priests are so precious and rare...


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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 01:13:41 PM »
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  • I choose to believe that Father began his priestly vocation with good intentions and much hope, but that he slipped off that path somewhere along the way. 

    People close to him have told me that he was never quite the same after the accidental drowning at one of his summer camps.

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 01:25:49 PM »
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  • People close to him have told me that he was never quite the same after the accidental drowning at one of his summer camps.
    I've heard about this (perhaps another tragic case?) but it wasn't a drowning, the kid was hit by a boat propeller. Parents who complain about the dangerous camps however, are told they have no say.      

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 01:28:37 PM »
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  • People close to him have told me that he was never quite the same after the accidental drowning at one of his summer camps.
    I had not heard of this. Was it before or after he started the resistance?  Frs Pfeiffer and Chazal were a great team in the beginning. 


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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 01:30:52 PM »
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  • That's very sad for all involved, and traumatic...

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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
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  • I had not heard of this. Was it before or after he started the resistance?  Frs Pfeiffer and Chazal were a great team in the beginning.
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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 01:54:04 PM »
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  • My name is Mary.  I have never posted here on CathInfo but have been reading posts on and off for a few years.  My main reason for visiting this site has been to learn more about the goings-on in Boston, KY.  I've never posted here because I've not wanted to get too involved in any behind-the-scenes issues.  I am a very private person and I find that too much time online tends to distract me from my other duties.  I believe, however, that I really need to take a minute here to say my piece.  

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    This is a courageous thing you have done, Mary, by posting this message. Unfortunately, I won't be surprised if you never post again since the identity you deserve to keep private has been outed already. Hopefully you can take consolation in the promise of prayers from total strangers who read your words. It would be nice if the practice of our Faith could be made to seem less of a tabloid side show and members like you could be recipients compassionate understanding.
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    Maybe the risk to which you have exposed yourself can be overshadowed by the benevolent concern of well-intentioned readers.
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    Re: Saying My Piece: Father Pfeiffer and OLMC
    « Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 02:09:43 PM »
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    How is your other brother, the CathInfo member known as ManuelChavez, doing?  He's been off the radar for months.

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    It would seem likely that the Lay-Exorcist-in-Charge has forbidden MC from having continued participation on this website forum.
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    The errors of Russia have found their way into the operation of OLMC.
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    Perhaps this thread would be better appreciated if read while listening to a Mexican drum-and-bugle corps recording.
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    If MC does manage to post any more, you can be assured it will be under very strict oversight by The Controlling Party.
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