and frankly I'm disappointed to see them being played on a forum like this.

then leave!

that said, if someone is something, then there most be some sort of proof.....sorry, have a degree and practical experience in investigations and law....that requires at sometime, fathering of proof of some crime and a wrong doer......merely saying something and pointing a finger is not proof. The difference between accusation and some evidence and sitting around philosophizing  on life..........

An accusation was made an Emperor of Austria wasa freemason, but nothing pointing to why...Rampolla, though no smokinggun, was viewed by many in his time and after, as a liberal and was thought then and still, possibly to be a Mason.....much has been written about this, none on the Emperor......

Yet, you a newbie coming blasting into this thread and pointing fingers, again, we are not talking about pie in sky, that is for you  philosophy folks, to feel and theorize in the air. where is the proof or strong evidence? where?

No difinitive proof on Pope John XXIII, Holy Roman Pontiff (Roscoe), of being a Mason, though a lot of circuмstantial evidence and accusation, enough to make one  :scratchchin:

Anyone who says that Card Rampolla was a Freemason is a liar & enemy of Popes Leo, Pius X & Card Merry Del Val. This is nothing but an attack on the Church. It is Franz- Joseph( who acc to Kertzer was 'surrounded' by Judaix) that is the Freemason.

BTW-- Pius XII was( unlike Della Chiesa) a true student & deciple of Rampolla.

Pius IX would have ex-communicated Franz- Joseph but couldn't get away with it for political reasons.

Again, the quote feature is not working.

Belloc, you still haven't answered the question. But something tells me that a person with as many posts as you have, in the amount of time you have been on this forum, doesn't commonly think things through before typing them. Considering your sloppy post style and your disjointed sentence structure I am inclined to think you might not be the clearest headed person and/or a teenager.

Either way you are on Ignore from now on. I apologize for leaving in the middle of a "conversation" but you seem like a typical troll. There seems to be ample "proof" for that assertion.

To the serious people on the forum, I have updated my bio. :)

thanks asshole, but am a 41 year old with some brain loss from a medical condition I could not help and despite surgery to correct, still have not regained my IQ, at the height of my illness, of 117.No telling what it was before condition got serious. I use to write and argue circles around others and could have, had I the money at the time, gone to law school, had many recommendations. Thanks for reminding me of the loss of brain cells, not to pot (Roscoe), but the very serious apnea.

I have a 4 yr degree in Criminal justice, worked as a Police officer, investigator, CSI and a PI-clear enough for an asshole with a 4 yr degree in "philosophy"?, which, save for the priesthood or a college professorship, gets ya squat.....

a troll? perhaps, you a newbie might wnat to go back more then 3 yrs of my posts and discussions. You and pothead loser Roscoe have yet to come up with FACTs, those are things that are a little more concreted then random philosophy ramblings, facts. That was what I was asking for....and again, my psots are quick, to the point as I am at work, you obvisouly might not be, again, a worthless degree tends to make one less hireable.

Troll? really? A lot of people here have known me for awhile, you are new and those people have many posts too!

again, facts please, not silly assed, coffee room philosophy please..and remember, YOU sir or the newbie, please take a few moments to come out of the "what is the meaning of life" clouds and go back to my many discourses on life with others here.

On hide? good idea, your and loser Pothead Roscoe can chat....

and the quote feature is working for for a "non clearheaded" person such as me, perhaps, prior to joining CI and launching attacks on others, you might wantto learn to use the site a bit......that function is working fine for me!

see, quote function is working just fine......

Sorry to hear that about your medical condition, Belloc.  

Sorry to hear that about your medical condition, Belloc.  

Improved, but will likely, never get back the gift of writing I enjoyed so much....its frustrating to not want to write or, sitting there and cannot put things together you see in your mind. Embarrasing the word finding thing, you go to say something and it comes out either wrong or not what was intended. Makes you feel like an idiot and angry too.

Physically, surgery corrected the problem, but I still cannot get back the sharpness of writing, thinking that I had prior. Give me a topic and I coul coherently, logically and persuasively, write more then Hobbles or Neil usually do.

many wanted me to go to law school.....perhaps I should have, but then, would be up a creek now......

Thanks for your kind response, gotta go, work is piling up!!!

Pulling up someone on their grammar makes you feel like you have the moral high ground what a big man you are! You're absolutely NOTHING AT ALL. You're still a little baby grovelling to his mummy for another feed. Divine providence is nasty isn't it belloc!
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Grammar is important if one is wanting to get a message across clearly.

Thank you for your explanation, Belloc.

Innit, please do not blaspheme here.