and frankly I'm disappointed to see them being played on a forum like this.
then leave!
that said, if someone is something, then there most be some sort of proof.....sorry, have a degree and practical experience in investigations and law....that requires at sometime, fathering of proof of some crime and a wrong doer......merely saying something and pointing a finger is not proof. The difference between accusation and some evidence and sitting around philosophizing on life..........
An accusation was made an Emperor of Austria wasa freemason, but nothing pointing to why...Rampolla, though no smokinggun, was viewed by many in his time and after, as a liberal and was thought then and still, possibly to be a Mason.....much has been written about this, none on the Emperor......
Yet, you a newbie coming blasting into this thread and pointing fingers, again, we are not talking about pie in sky, that is for you philosophy folks, to feel and theorize in the air. where is the proof or strong evidence? where?
No difinitive proof on Pope John XXIII, Holy Roman Pontiff (Roscoe), of being a Mason, though a lot of circuмstantial evidence and accusation, enough to make one :scratchchin: