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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2025, 04:15:33 PM »
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  • This is why a lot of men are reluctant of getting married nowdays or are extremely picky. Ladies the men are like cats, slowly you gotta get their attention, they will test you and sus you out to make sure there are no red flags, but if you spook them, they are gone.
    For however down voted me. Lions are still cats. A wise man is going to be very prudent in picking a wife. He's seen how men are easily destroyed by modern courts and does not want his labour to be stolen from him.

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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #31 on: September 07, 2025, 04:24:19 PM »
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  • For however down voted me. Lions are still cats. A wise man is going to be very prudent in picking a wife. He's seen how men are easily destroyed by modern courts and does not want his labour to be stolen from him.

    So, even more than their labors ... the souls of their children.  I mentioned that relative of mine who paid the full child support and alimony ... just so he could keep the children with him and continue raising them in the faith, instead of under the same roof with that woman and her adulterous concubine.


    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #32 on: September 08, 2025, 10:21:21 AM »
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  • Effeminate men?

    Father Rostand needs a good last Confession and…


    to walk the plank.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #33 on: September 08, 2025, 10:37:05 AM »
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  • Having witnessed the behavior of Rostand and Duverger years ago at a Mission Cataldo pilgrimage, none of the allegations shock me.  Rather, one could have predicted it.

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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #34 on: January 06, 2026, 12:37:44 PM »
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  • I have seen Missouri court filings stating SSPX priest Father Duverger is living in Florida with an 18 year old girl. Father Pagliarani is visiting Sanford these days. What is going on with Sanford Fl SSPX?

    https://www.courts.mo.gov/cnet/cases/newHeader.do?inputVO.caseNumber=24AE-CC00184&inputVO.courtId=SMPDB0001_CT06#docket

    https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/newHeader.do?inputVO.caseNumber=24AE-CC00184&inputVO.courtId=SMPDB0001_CT06&inputVO.isTicket=false#event

    Friday, Jan 9, 2026 Court hearing resumes. Is anyone (CInfo) free to assist? and give an un-official account?

    24AE-CC00184 - STEPHEN SANBORN V FATHER PIERRE DUVERGER ET AL (E-CASE)

    If an event is continued or cancelled it will not appear on this calendar.
    FRIDAY, JANUARY 9, 2026

    Judge/Commissioner: MYLES A PERRY
    Setting:
    Time: 10:00 AM
    Day: 1 OF 1

    Location: Platte
    Room: DIVISION 6 COURT ROOM
    Event: Motion Hearing
    Address: 415 3RD STREET SUITE 5 PLATTE CITY MO
    Event Text: DEF MOTION TO DISMISS


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    Happy Feast of the Epiphany, 2026 AD.


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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #35 on: January 06, 2026, 02:19:19 PM »
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  • I read every single filing on the court website.  The plaintiff has attempted for almost a year to serve Fr Duverger and failed because false addresses were provided by "someone".  Either the plaintiff's counsel is incompetent or the SSPX is hiding that priest, utilizing faithful in the most despicable manner.  This indeed is a scandal that should completely shutter every SSPX chapel in the US. Not to mention what happened at Post Falls...

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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #36 on: January 06, 2026, 02:26:33 PM »
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  • I read every single filing on the court website.  The plaintiff has attempted for almost a year to serve Fr Duverger and failed because false addresses were provided by "someone".  Either the plaintiff's counsel is incompetent or the SSPX is hiding that priest, utilizing faithful in the most despicable manner.  This indeed is a scandal that should completely shutter every SSPX chapel in the US. Not to mention what happened at Post Falls...

    I've heard of lawyers being scuмbags and unscrupulous but rarely incompetent which, sadly, likely, points the finger at +Fillet and company.  But at this point can anyone seriously be surprised?  What a sad turn.

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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #37 on: January 06, 2026, 03:40:24 PM »
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  • This entire affair is sordid. There’s no other word for it. 

    I thank God for depriving me of a religious vocation, marriage, husband, and motherhood.  

    The life of loner, misfit, and reject is far better than the drama, “As The SSPX Turns.” 


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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #38 on: January 08, 2026, 01:08:10 PM »
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  • No, something along the lines of what Father Purdy claims might SOMEtimes be the case, if there's one single most common problem in marriages, it's FEMINISM....

    Everything you said is 100% inline with my experience.  It's a plague.

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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 06:45:25 AM »
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  • This entire affair is sordid. There’s no other word for it.

    I thank God for depriving me of a religious vocation, marriage, husband, and motherhood. 

    The life of loner, misfit, and reject is far better than the drama, “As The SSPX Turns.”
    As I married man, I couldn't agree more. I have had characteristics of a loner since I was in elementary school. I should have never married. I now understand it better than ever, as a Traditional Catholic. Maybe I don't want to carry this cross, someone has a heavier cross than me for sure. But when I see how my mother, and aunt (wife of father's brother) still obeys amd respects her husband, I almost never experience that with my wife. And they still attend NO mass, go sometimes on pilgrimages, pray the rosary everyday. My mother in law also was submissive but had a also wrong choice of a husband. She suffered a lot from him (smoking and alcohol addiction, etc.) and his mother. She had to work 12-15 hours a day in a franciscian monestary and cleaning the camps, apartments. And my wife (her daughter) was left on her own most of the day, or with her father who was at home more than her mother. It's so unnatural and also bad company in a small village had to do dmaage and it did. She became antisubmissive, "anticross", very hard to acceept unjustice, ofter swearing, using bad language, yelling, disobeying, even stealing my card and spending my money when she was unemployed. I just can't realize still why I haven't divorced from her when we still haven't had a child.....

    This story about SSPX priests in Florida is very bad example and scandalous. I sometimes think that "trad wife" would be different than mine, but clearly that is not the case. Feminism and globalization, internet made it destructive almost everywhere excepts some tribes maybe. 



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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 04:24:52 PM »
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  • As I married man, I couldn't agree more. I have had characteristics of a loner since I was in elementary school. I should have never married. I now understand it better than ever, as a Traditional Catholic. Maybe I don't want to carry this cross, someone has a heavier cross than me for sure. But when I see how my mother, and aunt (wife of father's brother) still obeys amd respects her husband, I almost never experience that with my wife. And they still attend NO mass, go sometimes on pilgrimages, pray the rosary everyday. My mother in law also was submissive but had a also wrong choice of a husband. She suffered a lot from him (smoking and alcohol addiction, etc.) and his mother. She had to work 12-15 hours a day in a franciscian monestary and cleaning the camps, apartments. And my wife (her daughter) was left on her own most of the day, or with her father who was at home more than her mother. It's so unnatural and also bad company in a small village had to do dmaage and it did. She became antisubmissive, "anticross", very hard to acceept unjustice, ofter swearing, using bad language, yelling, disobeying, even stealing my card and spending my money when she was unemployed. I just can't realize still why I haven't divorced from her when we still haven't had a child.....

    This story about SSPX priests in Florida is very bad example and scandalous. I sometimes think that "trad wife" would be different than mine, but clearly that is not the case. Feminism and globalization, internet made it destructive almost everywhere excepts some tribes maybe.

    If you are validly married, you cannot divorce your wife, no matter how much of a pain she is. There are many people who suffer due to bad marriages. You are not alone. Good wives are the exception these days, even among "Trads", I dare to say.

    I believe that a part of what you say is right, but another part of it might be a temptation from the Devil, for you to think that you would be better elsewhere.

    If I am not mistaken, you have just have your first child less than a year ago, right? Even if your wife is not the best, now is the time to make the best out of your marriage, for the healthy development of your child. You have to be a good husband and to be a good father. You have to give the child a peaceful home, and avoid fights. Easier said than done, I know, but don't be disheartened.


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    Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
    « Reply #41 on: Yesterday at 05:53:38 PM »
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  • I read every single filing on the court website.  The plaintiff has attempted for almost a year to serve Fr Duverger and failed because false addresses were provided by "someone".  Either the plaintiff's counsel is incompetent or the SSPX is hiding that priest, utilizing faithful in the most despicable manner.  This indeed is a scandal that should completely shutter every SSPX chapel in the US. Not to mention what happened at Post Falls...
    I agree many SSPX chapels are a mess, but shutting down every single SSPX chapel in the USA is a bit extreme!  Think of all the souls that rely on SSPX for Mass and Sacraments. Think of all the souls that will either go back to the novus ordo, most of which I’ve come to believe have invalid priests therefore invalid sacraments. Many will cease to practice the Faith, go out into the world, or even become Protestant. Thousands of souls could be lost. In many places, the SSPX is the only option. Sanford, N. Carolina, and Post Falls (was it a chapel or a school?) have had now open scandals. What about the probable majority of people NOT involved in any way, and chapels where scandals have NOT occurred?  They should all be punished? Christ warned that there will be scandals, and woe to those who cause them. They should be fitted with millstone necklaces and dumped into the sea. He didn’t say their victims should be punished! It is also true that the victims of scandals will suffer, but they have the choice of whether to take scandal and let it destroy their souls, lose the Faith, or to forgive and go on, however difficult that may be. Depending upon the circuмstances, that may mean having to switch chapels, accept the loss of friendships, endure a fractured family, lose one’s job and suffer poverty, move away, or go “home alone.” Why would anyone WANT innocent parties to suffer for the sins of a few evil doers? God may will it as a test or strengthening, but that is not something an individual without proper authority may rightfully impose upon thousands of souls.
    Without going into detail, I was sinned against by someone in authority in the Church. That same person sinned against dozens of others, and in a manner much worse than with me. The person is presently in prison for his crimes. Should the victims along with about 350 completely innocent, ignorant at the time of the crimes be deprived of the Mass and Sacraments? Forced to move away, lose jobs, be estranged from families, their spouse, children? Forced to stay “home alone?” If it can be prevented, it is not right! 
    Speaking only for myself, I do not allow the sins of that person to deprive me of salvation. At present, I pity him and pray that he save his soul. I also am glad that earthly justice is being carried out. 
    Corporate sin certainly exists. God does judge and punish entire nations. But He justly determines when and how this is done, while dealing with every individual soul that no injustice occurs. Other times, God specifically punishes individual souls without inflicting pain on his entire family, city, or nation. 
    If I misbehaved as a child, let’s say, a real incident on our summer vacation in our RV. I  deliberately provoked my mother by using four-letter words. I received a mouthful of Palmolive dish soap and was sent to my rack. When my father returned, he got out the belt. I still had to apologize to my mother and siblings who heard it and were upset by the whole affair. My father didn’t give mom and siblings a taste of Palmolive and beat their hides! That would be most unjust!  They got to eat dinner, play this board game we had of four layer Tic-Tac-Toe. I did not get dinner or play a game. All I got was to listen to everyone else have fun, smell the tuna and mandarin curry casserole from behind the curtain and not come out until morning.